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From a very personal point of view, I'm happy with anti-cheats not working on linux. Some of them are flat out rootkits, see valorant's anti-cheat.

• rolandog 6y ago
  No kidding. After spending so much effort on verifying that the code I'm running comes from trusted sources and that I have a decently secure system, I can't help but feel dirty after allowing some sort of weird DRM/anti-cheat service that needs to phone home just so I'm able to play a game I loved from 5 or 6 years ago.
• charcircuit 6y ago
  What's the issue with giving out kernel mode access? Almost everyone is gaming on single user systems anyways.
  • cwkoss 6y ago
    Doesn't giving kernel mode access mean that if the game developer's CI is hacked, an attacker could push full compromise exploits down the channel? Aren't there some security benefits from trying to confine apps to user land?
    • charcircuit 6y ago
      Userland can run DoS attacks, it can mine crypto, it can run keyloggers, it can steal, encrypt, and delete your files, it can make your system not properly startup, it can replace sudo or other programs that ask for passwords with a custom version, it can steal whatever's on your clipboard, it can infect other operating systems (depends how they are mounted), and much more.
    • Google234 6y ago
      User land can also gain kernel access pretty trivially
  • kevingadd 6y ago
    Riot's Valorant rootkit is active from boot and actively monitors everything you run and will block things it doesn't like or doesn't recognize. Most of the other kernel anticheat rootkits are more polite and don't run until a game starts them, at least. In general having a bunch of random stuff from video games running with kernel permissions is spooky. You never know whether someone will find an exploit in one of them, or if it will cause performance, stability or data integrity problems.
    • rkangel 6y ago
      > Riot's Valorant rootkit is active from boot and actively monitors everything you run and will block things it doesn't like or doesn't recognize. Honestly, if I was responsible for building an anti-cheat system this is the way I'd go about it. Anything that can run that you don't know about (e.g. because it ran before you started) is a potential risk.
      • Google234 6y ago
        Cheaters now exploit boot loaders to side step this, funnily enough
• sayakura 6y ago
  If the price for not getting that crap installed on my system is a few triple A multiplayer games, then so be it.
• Rhedox 6y ago
  Pretty much all of them are root kits. EAC, Battle Eye, Valorant Vanguard, Faceit AC, ESEA AC, Denuvo AC