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It's still not open source. That would be worth reading.

by Kees_Veel 6y ago

circularfoyers 6y ago
Proton definitely is. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
- Kees_Veel 6y ago
  Yeah nice. But I didn't mean proton.
  - adtac 6y ago
    What did you mean? Because Proton is pretty much what this news is about so I'm a bit confused.
    - caspper69 6y ago
      I would have to assume that OP is lamenting the fact that the games themselves are not running natively on open source, and the existence of Proton detracts from game developers / publishers targeting Linux/OSS because now they don't really have a need to. Or he could be lamenting that the games themselves are not open source, but I haven't heard many of even the most die hard OSS evangelists suggest that AAA gaming content should be open sourced.
    - Kees_Veel 6y ago
      The games I mean. I guess I'm in the wrong topic here, but if you play those games, you implicitly have to trust their secret code on your network. User account and all. Obviously most here have done that a long time ago and don't even give it a second thought. This is normal in these times of Windows and Facebooks, but I still care.
      - Kees_Veel 6y ago
        Play a silly game and get hacked, It's a perfect trojan scenario, it's the oldest trick in the book. Now take 7000 chances, what are the odds? I can't believe this being downvoted so bad for raising this concern. screw you guys, i'm going home.
        bitcharmer 6y ago
        You do realise that most desktop computers run on closed source operating systems, don't you?
      - flohofwoe 6y ago
        There never was a time when the majority of games were open source, all the way back to 8-bit home computers. This was long before Windows, Facebook or an open source UNIX flavour even existed.
      - ebegnwgnen 6y ago
        I believe Valve is working on Flatpak sandboxing for games. If this happen that would be one more reason to game on Linux instead of Windows. It's not as good as open source but let's be real, you'll never get AAA open source games. Games don't need to access personal data (such as contact, phone number, photos, files, private messages, etc.) so with strong sandboxing I guess it could be a okay solution privacy-wise
        AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
        To the best of my knowledge Valve's container system has no relation to Flatpak.
        ebegnwgnen 6y ago
        I think it does : https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/3797 https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/3797 "Recent versions of Steam can optionally put each game in its own container, using a Flatpak-derived tool named pressure-vessel."
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    - jorl17 6y ago
      Perhaps OP means the games themselves are not open-source?

It's still not open source. That would be worth reading.

circularfoyers 6y ago

Proton definitely is. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton

Kees_Veel 6y ago
Yeah nice. But I didn't mean proton.
- adtac 6y ago
  What did you mean? Because Proton is pretty much what this news is about so I'm a bit confused.
  - caspper69 6y ago
    I would have to assume that OP is lamenting the fact that the games themselves are not running natively on open source, and the existence of Proton detracts from game developers / publishers targeting Linux/OSS because now they don't really have a need to. Or he could be lamenting that the games themselves are not open source, but I haven't heard many of even the most die hard OSS evangelists suggest that AAA gaming content should be open sourced.
  - Kees_Veel 6y ago
    The games I mean. I guess I'm in the wrong topic here, but if you play those games, you implicitly have to trust their secret code on your network. User account and all. Obviously most here have done that a long time ago and don't even give it a second thought. This is normal in these times of Windows and Facebooks, but I still care.
    - Kees_Veel 6y ago
      Play a silly game and get hacked, It's a perfect trojan scenario, it's the oldest trick in the book. Now take 7000 chances, what are the odds? I can't believe this being downvoted so bad for raising this concern. screw you guys, i'm going home.
      - bitcharmer 6y ago
        You do realise that most desktop computers run on closed source operating systems, don't you?
    - flohofwoe 6y ago
      There never was a time when the majority of games were open source, all the way back to 8-bit home computers. This was long before Windows, Facebook or an open source UNIX flavour even existed.
    - ebegnwgnen 6y ago
      I believe Valve is working on Flatpak sandboxing for games. If this happen that would be one more reason to game on Linux instead of Windows. It's not as good as open source but let's be real, you'll never get AAA open source games. Games don't need to access personal data (such as contact, phone number, photos, files, private messages, etc.) so with strong sandboxing I guess it could be a okay solution privacy-wise
      - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
        To the best of my knowledge Valve's container system has no relation to Flatpak.
        ebegnwgnen 6y ago
        I think it does : https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/3797 https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/3797 "Recent versions of Steam can optionally put each game in its own container, using a Flatpak-derived tool named pressure-vessel."
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  - jorl17 6y ago
    Perhaps OP means the games themselves are not open-source?