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I see what you are saying and I would like to point out a distinction if I may about chinese vs indian approaches regarding external criticism (with my limited

I see what you are saying and I would like to point out a distinction if I may about chinese vs indian approaches regarding external criticism (with my limited understanding of India as a country of course). You may see from the press that China has largely turned a blind eye to western criticism but in reality in all aspects of societal building we are adopting / importing more and more strategies from the west on a daily basis. I'm surprised when I talked to my childhood friends (some of whom are deep in administrative roles or important civil servants) their management is rapidly learning from the west (probably without them realising), may it be government bodies or private companies. The policies (at least on the paper) are getting closer and closer to what I can observe here in Europe. When I grew up in the 90s it was simply chaotic. Secondly, what I consider a major difference is that India has the ability to converse well with west whereas chinese diplomats / communication points are extremely poor and belong in an era with standards so lagging behind of modern times. Small proportion of people do read english but not to a point (especially the elites) to comprehend and incorporate western opinions well into a meaningful dialogue. All other asian countries are light years ahead of us. I'm not saying however who is better and not, all the symptoms maybe similar but there could be more nuances for a better understanding of the complex and yet inflaming situations.

FlyingSnake 6y ago
What I wanted to highlight is that China doesn't cower over criticisms of it due to west. No one from CCP loses sleep over some "democracy report" or an editorial in NYT. China does what it pleases and due to it's power, all the countries bow to it's economic might. With the rise of India, I'm sure we'll see such pattern. One major difference is that Indian right uses the criticism from western media to it's advantage, and helps bolster it's position in the game of West vs East.
- dumb1224 6y ago
  I think it's clear that all societies are facing problems like this that people are prone to following populism and ideological extremes, which can be made worse by amplification of social media. It's not yet clear how to tackle that and make critical thinking really useful but not to fall into populism traps.
42_ 6y ago
"The policies (at least on the paper) are getting closer and closer to what I can observe here in Europe." Can you give a few examples of such policies?
- dumb1224 6y ago
  I'm not sure if it's still relevant to the topic but some that I heard of from last year's 'Two meetings' (the congress): - parental leaves for both (I don't know if paid or unpaid) - age of consent from 14 to 16 - rights for single female to freeze eggs - abolish of cooling period of a divorce - tougher requirement for child adoption - protect citizen info online and prevent data leakage and abuse - defining quasi-contract better etc Of course there are glaring issues a lot of people care but never properly addressed such as the unfair pension scheme for gov body employees, which have been brought up every year and not resolved yet.

FlyingSnake 6y ago

What I wanted to highlight is that China doesn't cower over criticisms of it due to west. No one from CCP loses sleep over some "democracy report" or an editorial in NYT. China does what it pleases and due to it's power, all the countries bow to it's economic might. With the rise of India, I'm sure we'll see such pattern. One major difference is that Indian right uses the criticism from western media to it's advantage, and helps bolster it's position in the game of West vs East.

dumb1224 6y ago
I think it's clear that all societies are facing problems like this that people are prone to following populism and ideological extremes, which can be made worse by amplification of social media. It's not yet clear how to tackle that and make critical thinking really useful but not to fall into populism traps.

42_ 6y ago

"The policies (at least on the paper) are getting closer and closer to what I can observe here in Europe." Can you give a few examples of such policies?

dumb1224 6y ago
I'm not sure if it's still relevant to the topic but some that I heard of from last year's 'Two meetings' (the congress): - parental leaves for both (I don't know if paid or unpaid) - age of consent from 14 to 16 - rights for single female to freeze eggs - abolish of cooling period of a divorce - tougher requirement for child adoption - protect citizen info online and prevent data leakage and abuse - defining quasi-contract better etc Of course there are glaring issues a lot of people care but never properly addressed such as the unfair pension scheme for gov body employees, which have been brought up every year and not resolved yet.