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I would say you're going to lose that bet, China and Russia are making a completely different order in their backyard. Don't even think the EU has competent eno

I would say you're going to lose that bet, China and Russia are making a completely different order in their backyard. Don't even think the EU has competent enough diplomats/stateman, coffers deep enough to entice Russia to decouple from their China partnership. Just look at the shit show that has become Europe's covid and vaccine response also the shit show of the EU diplomatic mission to Russia recently. Given the Belt and Road Initiative(marshal plan ultra ultra) and Shanghai Cooperation Organization(NATO extra extra light). With NATO it hard to say which way Europe will go, our leaders might say go east Europeans while the big boss in Washington DC says stay where you are. God knows how many active operation Gladio like cells the US has active in the EU. To keep Europe separated from the greater Eurasian project China and Russia are building.

emilsedgh 6y ago
I just looked up at Operation Gladio. I never had any illusions about CIA but... CIA is an abomination. I'm an immigrant to the U.S. and I have a deep internal conflict about the morality of the country I live in and the part I play in. Now, the funny thing is, I come from a deeply corrupted third world country, Iran, which to some people is equivalent of evil (Which is not really far from true) But I never felt this bad about morality of the society I live in. You know why? Because the Islamic Republic, all the evil, all the crimes against humanity committed by Iranian Regime, is forced on it's people. But the U.S. nukes other countries, starts wars, makes safe and stable places unstable for smallest of interests AND AMERICANS SUPPORT IT [0]. This kills me. Sorry about the rant. [0] Of course not all Americans.
- dragonelite 6y ago
  Just look up the Phoenix Program, then tell me how much the west really cares about human rights etc. Its a nice story to keep the folks at home nice and quiet. Then think about the last couple of decades with the Patriot Act and CLOUD act, social media censorship of dissenting voices its the Phoenix Program brought home. Probably helped with removing the socialist movement in the west and its now being replaced with woke imperialism. Too be honest there is no pure good party on this world, just enjoy life and like you said you have already used your most powerful vote, voting with your feet. Take your labor power to the places you think will make you happy and can offer a future to next generation.

emilsedgh 6y ago

I just looked up at Operation Gladio. I never had any illusions about CIA but... CIA is an abomination. I'm an immigrant to the U.S. and I have a deep internal conflict about the morality of the country I live in and the part I play in. Now, the funny thing is, I come from a deeply corrupted third world country, Iran, which to some people is equivalent of evil (Which is not really far from true) But I never felt this bad about morality of the society I live in. You know why? Because the Islamic Republic, all the evil, all the crimes against humanity committed by Iranian Regime, is forced on it's people. But the U.S. nukes other countries, starts wars, makes safe and stable places unstable for smallest of interests AND AMERICANS SUPPORT IT [0]. This kills me. Sorry about the rant. [0] Of course not all Americans.

dragonelite 6y ago
Just look up the Phoenix Program, then tell me how much the west really cares about human rights etc. Its a nice story to keep the folks at home nice and quiet. Then think about the last couple of decades with the Patriot Act and CLOUD act, social media censorship of dissenting voices its the Phoenix Program brought home. Probably helped with removing the socialist movement in the west and its now being replaced with woke imperialism. Too be honest there is no pure good party on this world, just enjoy life and like you said you have already used your most powerful vote, voting with your feet. Take your labor power to the places you think will make you happy and can offer a future to next generation.