> I think Agile is best learnt by first failing a 1-million dollars Waterfall project. Very high quality engineering work has been getting done ages before "ag

> I think Agile is best learnt by first failing a 1-million dollars Waterfall project. Very high quality engineering work has been getting done ages before "agile" status-reporting was invented and it was often not waterfall (I've been around the industry since the 80s and have never done "waterfall" - the false dichotomy of agile vs. waterfall is a myth).