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I went to the Seuss museum a couple years ago (Springfield MA). Quite delightful. I think the company (trust?) just decided it wasn’t worth it. The books aren

I went to the Seuss museum a couple years ago (Springfield MA). Quite delightful. I think the company (trust?) just decided it wasn’t worth it. The books aren’t the big sellers. They’re not shutting down Seuss world in Orlando. Other books still exist. Honestly probably a good publicity move for them to sell books to those who wouldn’t have bought anyway.

reaperducer 6y ago
They’re not shutting down Seuss world in Orlando. Yet. Considering how people are canceling Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr., it's only a matter of time. Maybe weeks.
- jjj123 6y ago
  Who’s canceling MLK?
  - reaperducer 6y ago
    It's been in the newspaper for the last year or so that the woke crowd is reevaluating his legacy. He had a number of writings that today are considered anti-gay. In one very public letter to a gay teen (published in a newspaper, IIRC) he told the teen that he needed mental health counseling to correct himself. It's a pretty famous letter. Should be an easy Google search.
    - eesmith 6y ago
      So, "cancel" means "evaluate someone based on their entire person rather than just the things that person is most famous for"? Because I can't seriously think that woke people are saying that MLK's work must be banned, censored, and otherwise removed from history courses, national discourse, etc., which is how anti-cancel-culture people usually seem to characterize the matter.
      - ketamine__ 6y ago
        > So, "cancel" means "evaluate someone based on their entire person rather than just the things that person is most famous for"? Lots of people tried to cancel Brendan Eich because of something unrelated to the his professional career. There are still comments on HN that try to cancel him from time to time.
        eesmith 6y ago
        What does "cancel" mean to you? Does it mean that people shouldn't face criticism and negative consequences for what they do in the public sphere? The argument was that LGBT people and their fellow travelers working for and supporting Mozilla would likely not want to continue if the head of the organization supported anti-LGBT laws. As such, that would diminish his leadership effectiveness. How is leadership effectiveness unrelated to his professional career in a leadership role? When I've looked into it, opposition to "cancel" seems more like the belief that rich, powerful, or famous people shouldn't suffer negative consequences for saying or doing something that liberals don't like.
        ketamine__ 6y ago
        > Does it mean that people shouldn't face criticism and negative consequences for what they do in the public sphere? It's fine to criticize people. Do you believe that someone should never be able to hold a job again because they donated money to a politician that an employee finds unsavory? > The argument was that LGBT people and their fellow travelers working for and supporting Mozilla would likely not want to continue if the head of the organization supported anti-LGBT laws. As such, that would diminish his leadership effectiveness. There is no proof he acted against the interests of LGBT employees at Mozilla. I like the idea of due process and if you can't come up with something that actually hurts employees then I don't find it to be a substantial argument. There are millions of people that don't support LGBT laws. We can't force them all to be jobless homeless. That's totalitarian. What I get from your post is that an employees personal feelings are more important than facts and reality. Employees can always go somewhere else instead of launching campaigns to have someone fired.
  - Spooky23 6y ago
    MLK was a great man and champion of social justice, but a conservative Baptist pastor. That doesn’t jive with today’s activism, and the modern activists don’t really care about racial injustice.

reaperducer 6y ago

They’re not shutting down Seuss world in Orlando. Yet. Considering how people are canceling Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr., it's only a matter of time. Maybe weeks.

jjj123 6y ago
Who’s canceling MLK?
- reaperducer 6y ago
  It's been in the newspaper for the last year or so that the woke crowd is reevaluating his legacy. He had a number of writings that today are considered anti-gay. In one very public letter to a gay teen (published in a newspaper, IIRC) he told the teen that he needed mental health counseling to correct himself. It's a pretty famous letter. Should be an easy Google search.
  - eesmith 6y ago
    So, "cancel" means "evaluate someone based on their entire person rather than just the things that person is most famous for"? Because I can't seriously think that woke people are saying that MLK's work must be banned, censored, and otherwise removed from history courses, national discourse, etc., which is how anti-cancel-culture people usually seem to characterize the matter.
    - ketamine__ 6y ago
      > So, "cancel" means "evaluate someone based on their entire person rather than just the things that person is most famous for"? Lots of people tried to cancel Brendan Eich because of something unrelated to the his professional career. There are still comments on HN that try to cancel him from time to time.
      - eesmith 6y ago
        What does "cancel" mean to you? Does it mean that people shouldn't face criticism and negative consequences for what they do in the public sphere? The argument was that LGBT people and their fellow travelers working for and supporting Mozilla would likely not want to continue if the head of the organization supported anti-LGBT laws. As such, that would diminish his leadership effectiveness. How is leadership effectiveness unrelated to his professional career in a leadership role? When I've looked into it, opposition to "cancel" seems more like the belief that rich, powerful, or famous people shouldn't suffer negative consequences for saying or doing something that liberals don't like.
        ketamine__ 6y ago
        > Does it mean that people shouldn't face criticism and negative consequences for what they do in the public sphere? It's fine to criticize people. Do you believe that someone should never be able to hold a job again because they donated money to a politician that an employee finds unsavory? > The argument was that LGBT people and their fellow travelers working for and supporting Mozilla would likely not want to continue if the head of the organization supported anti-LGBT laws. As such, that would diminish his leadership effectiveness. There is no proof he acted against the interests of LGBT employees at Mozilla. I like the idea of due process and if you can't come up with something that actually hurts employees then I don't find it to be a substantial argument. There are millions of people that don't support LGBT laws. We can't force them all to be jobless homeless. That's totalitarian. What I get from your post is that an employees personal feelings are more important than facts and reality. Employees can always go somewhere else instead of launching campaigns to have someone fired.
- Spooky23 6y ago
  MLK was a great man and champion of social justice, but a conservative Baptist pastor. That doesn’t jive with today’s activism, and the modern activists don’t really care about racial injustice.