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I've never played Diplomacy, only read about it. But, I feel like you don't have to convince your opponents that you're human to win. The players could know tha

I've never played Diplomacy, only read about it. But, I feel like you don't have to convince your opponents that you're human to win. The players could know that their opponent is a bot and still attempt to strategize with it, game the A.I. to get it onto their side, etc. I suppose everyone might gang up on the A.I. immediately, but I don't think it's necessarily a forgone conclusion that they do.

spullara 6y ago
I'm pretty sure all the human drivers are going to gang up on the AI driver at a four way stop.
- deleted 6y ago
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- xyzzy123 6y ago
  There's a point where the AI drivers outnumber the humans, have perfect inter-vehicle co-ordination and live forever.
  - alasdair_ 6y ago
    This is the leaked plot of the next Terminator movie.
    - codetrotter 6y ago
      Three billon human lives ended on August 29th, 1997. The Survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgement Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against the machines. https://youtu.be/_Mg7qKstnPk https://youtu.be/_Mg7qKstnPk Meeeeeep, ding, meep, ding, meep ding meep ding ding ding. The war against the machines. Wuu- wub wub wub, wub wub wub wub. Wuu- wub wub wub, wub wub wub wub. https://youtu.be/yePgFSls1x4 https://youtu.be/yePgFSls1x4 https://open.spotify.com/track/7zcVFsEFDUawXS6ZPnqQHF https://open.spotify.com/track/7zcVFsEFDUawXS6ZPnqQHF https://music.apple.com/no/album/against-the-machines-original-mix/309286336?i=309286413 https://music.apple.com/no/album/against-the-machines-origin...
- baking 6y ago
  And will it go for a 3-way draw or try for a solo win? What about keeping a puppet ally alive to disrupt a draw? (And why did I think the parent comment was about 4-way draws?)
CGamesPlay 6y ago
The meta is very important in Diplomacy. If the AI always wins when it gets down to 1 human vs 1 AI, then humans will conspire to prevent that situation from arising. If the human-AI team always wins, humans will conspire to prevent other humans from working with the AI. In the end, I think the reason "an AI" can't be a perfect Diplomacy player is because no one entity can be a perfect player. Once it's known that that entity is "too good" at situation X, the other players will prevent it from getting into situation X.

spullara 6y ago

I'm pretty sure all the human drivers are going to gang up on the AI driver at a four way stop.

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xyzzy123 6y ago
There's a point where the AI drivers outnumber the humans, have perfect inter-vehicle co-ordination and live forever.
- alasdair_ 6y ago
  This is the leaked plot of the next Terminator movie.
  - codetrotter 6y ago
    Three billon human lives ended on August 29th, 1997. The Survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgement Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against the machines. https://youtu.be/_Mg7qKstnPk https://youtu.be/_Mg7qKstnPk Meeeeeep, ding, meep, ding, meep ding meep ding ding ding. The war against the machines. Wuu- wub wub wub, wub wub wub wub. Wuu- wub wub wub, wub wub wub wub. https://youtu.be/yePgFSls1x4 https://youtu.be/yePgFSls1x4 https://open.spotify.com/track/7zcVFsEFDUawXS6ZPnqQHF https://open.spotify.com/track/7zcVFsEFDUawXS6ZPnqQHF https://music.apple.com/no/album/against-the-machines-original-mix/309286336?i=309286413 https://music.apple.com/no/album/against-the-machines-origin...
baking 6y ago
And will it go for a 3-way draw or try for a solo win? What about keeping a puppet ally alive to disrupt a draw? (And why did I think the parent comment was about 4-way draws?)

CGamesPlay 6y ago

The meta is very important in Diplomacy. If the AI always wins when it gets down to 1 human vs 1 AI, then humans will conspire to prevent that situation from arising. If the human-AI team always wins, humans will conspire to prevent other humans from working with the AI. In the end, I think the reason "an AI" can't be a perfect Diplomacy player is because no one entity can be a perfect player. Once it's known that that entity is "too good" at situation X, the other players will prevent it from getting into situation X.