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Here is your "but this time it is fine" Autopilot attempting to murder yet another driver just 9 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmAG4dk-rU https:/

Here is your "but this time it is fine" Autopilot attempting to murder yet another driver just 9 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmAG4dk-rU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmAG4dk-rU

ineedasername 6y ago
It looks like the car at least tried to stop. I'm sure some software engineer at Tesla saw that and said "Yes! A real-world UAT on the latest don't hit stationary objects point release! Now I can close out that story in Jira."
jcims 6y ago
What a bunch of zombies holy moly.
zhte415 6y ago
I suppose we need more captcha images of overturned trucks rather than a brain behind the wheel.
jiofih 6y ago
Here is a human driving into 36 cars: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5KgLVh-4Mg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5KgLVh-4Mg Here is another doing a burnout and crashing into a store, a month ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJu5TZ6rwXg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJu5TZ6rwXg Human-driven truck runs straight into a 100-car pile up, 1 month ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqNy7v5YekM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqNy7v5YekM Beat that, Tesla!
- bildung 6y ago
  This isn't how statistics work. Teslas are only about .1% of all cars in the US, and only a fraction of those have autopilot on. If autopilot is as safe as a human driver, we'd expect to see about 10000 cases of human stupidity for every case of autopilot stupidity.
  - jiofih 6y ago
    That’s exactly my point. There are millions of Teslas on the road, a single incident nine months ago means very little. You will find thousands of these for humans in the past month alone. Teslas per-mile incident rate is currently about 1/10th that of human drivers.
    - bildung 6y ago
      > There are millions of Teslas on the road, It's only 1.4 million ever sold worldwide. > Teslas per-mile incident rate is currently about 1/10th that of human drivers. But the reason for that is obvious, isn't it? It is strongly encouraged to activate autopilot in trivial situations (e.g. lane assist on interstates), whereas most dangerous conditions (rain, freezing, bad roads, road works and so on) and their higher incident share is almost completely in the human driver column.
      - jiofih 6y ago
        These cars have driven about 4 billion miles with AP on, only six confirmed AP fatalities total since 2016. If it was such a hazard you’d expect to see hundreds or thousands of serious incidents.
        bildung 6y ago
        Its at 15 deaths for currently 3.3 billion miles driven. The number 6 comes from Tesla itself, which isn't exactly in a neutral position. Thats 4.5 deaths per billion mile driven. No idea about the US, but in Denmark the deaths per billion mile of highway roads driven is 0.7. In other words: On a European freeway equivalent you are over 6x more likely to die from Teslas autopilot than if you would drive yourself.
jacquesm 6y ago
What is really amazing about that video is the people who must obviously be witnessing a really bad crash but just keep in driving.

Here is your "but this time it is fine" Autopilot attempting to murder yet another driver just 9 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmAG4dk-rU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmAG4dk-rU

ineedasername 6y ago

It looks like the car at least tried to stop. I'm sure some software engineer at Tesla saw that and said "Yes! A real-world UAT on the latest don't hit stationary objects point release! Now I can close out that story in Jira."

jcims 6y ago

What a bunch of zombies holy moly.

zhte415 6y ago

I suppose we need more captcha images of overturned trucks rather than a brain behind the wheel.

jiofih 6y ago

Here is a human driving into 36 cars: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5KgLVh-4Mg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5KgLVh-4Mg Here is another doing a burnout and crashing into a store, a month ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJu5TZ6rwXg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJu5TZ6rwXg Human-driven truck runs straight into a 100-car pile up, 1 month ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqNy7v5YekM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqNy7v5YekM Beat that, Tesla!

bildung 6y ago
This isn't how statistics work. Teslas are only about .1% of all cars in the US, and only a fraction of those have autopilot on. If autopilot is as safe as a human driver, we'd expect to see about 10000 cases of human stupidity for every case of autopilot stupidity.
- jiofih 6y ago
  That’s exactly my point. There are millions of Teslas on the road, a single incident nine months ago means very little. You will find thousands of these for humans in the past month alone. Teslas per-mile incident rate is currently about 1/10th that of human drivers.
  - bildung 6y ago
    > There are millions of Teslas on the road, It's only 1.4 million ever sold worldwide. > Teslas per-mile incident rate is currently about 1/10th that of human drivers. But the reason for that is obvious, isn't it? It is strongly encouraged to activate autopilot in trivial situations (e.g. lane assist on interstates), whereas most dangerous conditions (rain, freezing, bad roads, road works and so on) and their higher incident share is almost completely in the human driver column.
    - jiofih 6y ago
      These cars have driven about 4 billion miles with AP on, only six confirmed AP fatalities total since 2016. If it was such a hazard you’d expect to see hundreds or thousands of serious incidents.
      - bildung 6y ago
        Its at 15 deaths for currently 3.3 billion miles driven. The number 6 comes from Tesla itself, which isn't exactly in a neutral position. Thats 4.5 deaths per billion mile driven. No idea about the US, but in Denmark the deaths per billion mile of highway roads driven is 0.7. In other words: On a European freeway equivalent you are over 6x more likely to die from Teslas autopilot than if you would drive yourself.

jacquesm 6y ago

What is really amazing about that video is the people who must obviously be witnessing a really bad crash but just keep in driving.