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The word you are referring to is nigger. It’s a bad word that can be very offensive. It’s horrible to use it in a derogatory way, but I feel that it’s ridiculou

The word you are referring to is nigger. It’s a bad word that can be very offensive. It’s horrible to use it in a derogatory way, but I feel that it’s ridiculous in at least halfway intelligent conversation no one white even dare ever write it, let alone say it. As if white people have enforced themselves to just pretend the word has magic powers and it is the one who shall not be named. That’s giving an enormous amount of power over people who want to control language in a inherently racist way (your skin color determines your ability to say a word). I refuse to accept that this amount of power extends to typing the word as a discussion of it.

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fractallyte 6y ago
> your skin color determines your ability to say a word To illustrate your point: https://youtu.be/VsJIUJjQ4OA https://youtu.be/VsJIUJjQ4OA Jackie Chan, in Rush Hour - an innocent tourist, trying to be friendly, and following the rules of „When in Rome...“
- SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
  Want to bet that scene would be entirely different today with Chan taking a sensitivity class instead of smashing up a black business and beating the crap out of black people who attacked him for his innocent but now “problematic” cultural mistake? “His cultural appropriation of “that“ word was an act of violence itself, in the movie they were initially defending themselves from Chan. This must be canceled and never aired again. This 24 year old movie is clearly reflective of Chan’s personal beliefs and he must apologize with a sizable donation to “the cause” which conveniently are all ActBlue affiliated charities”
s1artibartfast 6y ago
IT also gives an enormous power to the word itself, and those who want to use it to hurt people.
- tester34 6y ago
  how's that different from any other insult targeted at e.g nation? murican, nazi, polack, ching chong?
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    It isn't. Slurs can be hurtful, so you shouldn't direct them at people or use them in a derogatory way if you don't want to be hurtful. The idea that words can't be spoken in any context is counterproductive.
    - tester34 6y ago
      but somehow people managed to get used to it and stopped caring
      - s1artibartfast 6y ago
        I think that is unclear. People seems to care just as much as ever when they are called a slur, and are even more offended when they see them used in non-malicious ways
4ggr0 6y ago
There are two things I can't quite comprehend as someone who's not from the US. * Why exactly the n-word is exclusive to black people. In my mind, either no one uses the word if it's offensive, or everyone can use it in a neutral way. I don't know of any other single word which is gatekept. I mean, I never want to use it, so it's not about that. I guess it has to do with pride and being able to use a word which was once used to insult you. Maybe it gives power, don't know. But it can't be that clear, seeing as how the whole world seems to be confused about the reasoning and usage of this word. Essentially, I don't really mind that I can't say it, but I just don't understand it. * Cultural appropriation - I see people get cancelled for wearing, eating or celebrating things which aren't "from their culture". This is so shocking to me and sounds like something fashists would say. "Keep to your cultures and races", wtf? It also seems to be very one-sided. I understand it if we talk about sacred things, native american headwear as an example. But things like food, hair styles and certain clothing? Just seems to divide people more. Isn't it a better sign if I as a white dude like other cultures food, clothing etc.? That should signal to these cultures that I appreciate, accept and like them, right? Again, I'm white and from europe and I know that these are very sensitive and hot topics.
- enriquto 6y ago
  > Cultural appropriation This. I'm as left wing as they come, and agree wholeheartedly with 99% of the current far-left discourse. But some of this "cultural appropriation" stuff is just nuts.
  - mcv 6y ago
    As far as I can tell, the only case where "cultural appropriation" is legitimately bad, is when people turn another culture's symbols of accomplishment into a fashion accessory. This is the case with the Native American headdress, where every feather represents a milestone or accomplishment, and Maori life tattoos, where every tattoo represents an event out of that person's own life. Turning that into your own fashion statement without any respect for the cultural meaning, is like wearing a Purple Heart you didn't earn, except that that purple heart doesn't have the same spiritual/cultural meaning. But stuff like yoga, jazz/hip-hop, or even food? There it turns into an argument for cultural segregation, where minority cultures are effectively not allowed to become mainstream.

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fractallyte 6y ago

> your skin color determines your ability to say a word To illustrate your point: https://youtu.be/VsJIUJjQ4OA https://youtu.be/VsJIUJjQ4OA Jackie Chan, in Rush Hour - an innocent tourist, trying to be friendly, and following the rules of „When in Rome...“

SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
Want to bet that scene would be entirely different today with Chan taking a sensitivity class instead of smashing up a black business and beating the crap out of black people who attacked him for his innocent but now “problematic” cultural mistake? “His cultural appropriation of “that“ word was an act of violence itself, in the movie they were initially defending themselves from Chan. This must be canceled and never aired again. This 24 year old movie is clearly reflective of Chan’s personal beliefs and he must apologize with a sizable donation to “the cause” which conveniently are all ActBlue affiliated charities”

s1artibartfast 6y ago

IT also gives an enormous power to the word itself, and those who want to use it to hurt people.

tester34 6y ago
how's that different from any other insult targeted at e.g nation? murican, nazi, polack, ching chong?
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  It isn't. Slurs can be hurtful, so you shouldn't direct them at people or use them in a derogatory way if you don't want to be hurtful. The idea that words can't be spoken in any context is counterproductive.
  - tester34 6y ago
    but somehow people managed to get used to it and stopped caring
    - s1artibartfast 6y ago
      I think that is unclear. People seems to care just as much as ever when they are called a slur, and are even more offended when they see them used in non-malicious ways

4ggr0 6y ago

There are two things I can't quite comprehend as someone who's not from the US. * Why exactly the n-word is exclusive to black people. In my mind, either no one uses the word if it's offensive, or everyone can use it in a neutral way. I don't know of any other single word which is gatekept. I mean, I never want to use it, so it's not about that. I guess it has to do with pride and being able to use a word which was once used to insult you. Maybe it gives power, don't know. But it can't be that clear, seeing as how the whole world seems to be confused about the reasoning and usage of this word. Essentially, I don't really mind that I can't say it, but I just don't understand it. * Cultural appropriation - I see people get cancelled for wearing, eating or celebrating things which aren't "from their culture". This is so shocking to me and sounds like something fashists would say. "Keep to your cultures and races", wtf? It also seems to be very one-sided. I understand it if we talk about sacred things, native american headwear as an example. But things like food, hair styles and certain clothing? Just seems to divide people more. Isn't it a better sign if I as a white dude like other cultures food, clothing etc.? That should signal to these cultures that I appreciate, accept and like them, right? Again, I'm white and from europe and I know that these are very sensitive and hot topics.

enriquto 6y ago
> Cultural appropriation This. I'm as left wing as they come, and agree wholeheartedly with 99% of the current far-left discourse. But some of this "cultural appropriation" stuff is just nuts.
- mcv 6y ago
  As far as I can tell, the only case where "cultural appropriation" is legitimately bad, is when people turn another culture's symbols of accomplishment into a fashion accessory. This is the case with the Native American headdress, where every feather represents a milestone or accomplishment, and Maori life tattoos, where every tattoo represents an event out of that person's own life. Turning that into your own fashion statement without any respect for the cultural meaning, is like wearing a Purple Heart you didn't earn, except that that purple heart doesn't have the same spiritual/cultural meaning. But stuff like yoga, jazz/hip-hop, or even food? There it turns into an argument for cultural segregation, where minority cultures are effectively not allowed to become mainstream.