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ya'll, folks, people, team, everyone, friends, pals, peeps, chums, gang, squad, crew, mates, peers - i mean c'mon, there are just so many non-gendered ones out

ya'll, folks, people, team, everyone, friends, pals, peeps, chums, gang, squad, crew, mates, peers - i mean c'mon, there are just so many non-gendered ones out there to pick from (and inb4 "but guys is not gendered!!" - how do you explain the phrase "guys and gals" then?)

least 6y ago
The term "guys and gals" is slightly more archaic than the gender neutral "guys" that is used commonly in many parts of the United States.
- katbyte 6y ago
  And yet it keeps coming up at the USA based company i work at as a term many women do not like or consider gender neutral
  - Spivak 6y ago
    Yeah it’s region dependent. In the Midwest it’s super gender neutral to the point where people will “hey guys” or “hey man” to refer to women. Really really jarring.
  - least 6y ago
    USA in itself has many microcosms of culture, it's not one homogeneous clump. The fact that your company is USA based offers no indication of the cultural backgrounds of people working there. You can try to homogenize language and culture to suit your own sensibilities. Since I view "guy" as a gendered term, then that's clearly the only acceptable definition and interpretation of the term. Other people's usage is obviously problematic and I want to compel them to change their language to meet my requirements and sense of acceptable terminology. Alternatively you can embrace the fact that people's language is their own and acknowledge that the person's intent here does indeed matter. You don't need to adapt the same language that they use, but you could be mindful that people speak differently than you and that your discomfort with terminology is sometimes maligned.
da_big_ghey 6y ago
"guys and gals" explain in way same as "cow" refer in technical for woman bovine but in usual term to any bovine. Either woman or man bovine is "cow" in group. Unless archaic "kine" I have not ever heard used in speech. Also "duck" is refer for man and both woman water fowl. Drake correct word for man in the species.

least 6y ago

The term "guys and gals" is slightly more archaic than the gender neutral "guys" that is used commonly in many parts of the United States.

katbyte 6y ago
And yet it keeps coming up at the USA based company i work at as a term many women do not like or consider gender neutral
- Spivak 6y ago
  Yeah it’s region dependent. In the Midwest it’s super gender neutral to the point where people will “hey guys” or “hey man” to refer to women. Really really jarring.
- least 6y ago
  USA in itself has many microcosms of culture, it's not one homogeneous clump. The fact that your company is USA based offers no indication of the cultural backgrounds of people working there. You can try to homogenize language and culture to suit your own sensibilities. Since I view "guy" as a gendered term, then that's clearly the only acceptable definition and interpretation of the term. Other people's usage is obviously problematic and I want to compel them to change their language to meet my requirements and sense of acceptable terminology. Alternatively you can embrace the fact that people's language is their own and acknowledge that the person's intent here does indeed matter. You don't need to adapt the same language that they use, but you could be mindful that people speak differently than you and that your discomfort with terminology is sometimes maligned.

da_big_ghey 6y ago

"guys and gals" explain in way same as "cow" refer in technical for woman bovine but in usual term to any bovine. Either woman or man bovine is "cow" in group. Unless archaic "kine" I have not ever heard used in speech. Also "duck" is refer for man and both woman water fowl. Drake correct word for man in the species.