I've seen project managers lead cross-functional scrum/agile teams, making people listen to eachother so that each team is in sync and productive. But this was

I've seen project managers lead cross-functional scrum/agile teams, making people listen to eachother so that each team is in sync and productive. But this was their personal understanding, and was then removed to pave way for the mandated certified "Agile" methodologies and rituals (=WaterScrumFall). So whatever was learned, gets lost in the next turn of the wheel, inevitably. What people miss in their accounts is that any success or learning is temporary, and in the organisational space, change is inevitable rendering all and any accomplishments transient.