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and from a platform that still allows Mein Kampf to be listed it seems especially idiotic... Edit, to add: as a comment below notes eBay only allows annotated

by Fezzik 6y ago

and from a platform that still allows Mein Kampf to be listed it seems especially idiotic... Edit, to add: as a comment below notes eBay only allows annotated versions of the book. So maybe they are consistent; I didn’t click through any of the listings when I searched. I also have no idea how you annotate Mein Kampf to not be racist/anti-Semitic propaganda...

snicksnak 6y ago
It's the next step of corporate virtue signaling. Just repeating slogans on twitter or changing the bio and profile of a company account will not be enough anymore, instead pick a ridiculous hot topic from the news cycle and use this as an opportunity to implement an even more ridiculous policy change in your company to show that your company is down with the cause. I bet we will see even more of that.
- brailsafe 6y ago
  I love the term virtue signalling, but I'd much prefer the stronger word come back into the regular lexicon: "sanctimonious". It feels more impactful, as in "we didn't need a new word to describe your tendency to shout about your moral superiority"
  - MarkLowenstein 6y ago
    In the 70s and 80s, a common complaint about American Republicans was that they were sanctimonious moralizers. Now another party has adopted that mantle, but a lot of people have yet to catch up with that fact.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    Virtue signaling is such a great descriptive term for a lot of behavior. It's such a shame that it got politicized.
    - brailsafe 6y ago
      social grandstanding is another good one
- SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
  “Oh we would never burn book... oh wait.” It really was not that long ago... like 20 years we knew that all the things we’re seeing now are wrong and even had an idea why they were wrong. There is going to be a kick back from all of this. I think we all know it, just not what form it will take.
- beaker52 6y ago
  I've occasionally observed parallels between the 4chan-esque mob and the woke mob. It's the power of peer pressure combined with the apparently human tendancy to encourage others to do things we know are wrong for our own amusement. It's the playground mentality where a bunch of kids stand around goading another kid into doing something terrible chanting "do it, do it". With each success the groups find new levels of perversion to push their members to.
breakfastduck 6y ago
It's doublethink, there's no other way to really summarize the effect from things like this.
respondo2134 6y ago
especially because the Dr Seuss books are superior literary specimens (how ironic!)
pseudalopex 6y ago
Only annotated editions apparently.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26350364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26350364
- Fezzik 6y ago
  Interesting! I have only ever read the original - does the annotated edition actually remove all the rampant racism and anti-semitism? Both are rather prevalent topics in the book...
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    Your bio says you're an attorney. I think you know how annotation works.
    - Fezzik 6y ago
      I most certainly do! I was referring to this specific annotated version, which also indicates that it was edited... having read the book I just don’t see how annotations would change anything about how racist and anti-Semitic the book is. EBay’s police indicates that they remove racist and offensive items... there’s nothing about leaving those listings up so long as there is a stern disclaimer that the item is, in fact, quite offensive. I perhaps incorrectly assumed some of the more virulent nonsense was edited out.
      - pseudalopex 6y ago
        The only specific version they mentioned was pulled because it wasn't annotated. I don't know what specific version you mean. Most people wouldn't call a version with just a disclaimer annotated. I assume annotated versions of Mein Kampf refute Hitler's claims.
josefx 6y ago
> Edit, to add: as a comment below notes eBay only allows annotated versions of the book. I wouldn't be surprised if this started as a copyright issue. Bavaria inherited Hitlers copyright and aggressively banned any sale of Mein Kampf, only annotated versions got around that ban and even that was a legal uphill battle as far as I remember.
Shugarl 6y ago
Mein Kampf isn't a children book though. In addition to the be fact that the books are annotated, those who are going to read it will be of enough to get the context surrounding this book

by Fezzik 6y ago

snicksnak 6y ago

It's the next step of corporate virtue signaling. Just repeating slogans on twitter or changing the bio and profile of a company account will not be enough anymore, instead pick a ridiculous hot topic from the news cycle and use this as an opportunity to implement an even more ridiculous policy change in your company to show that your company is down with the cause. I bet we will see even more of that.

brailsafe 6y ago
I love the term virtue signalling, but I'd much prefer the stronger word come back into the regular lexicon: "sanctimonious". It feels more impactful, as in "we didn't need a new word to describe your tendency to shout about your moral superiority"
- MarkLowenstein 6y ago
  In the 70s and 80s, a common complaint about American Republicans was that they were sanctimonious moralizers. Now another party has adopted that mantle, but a lot of people have yet to catch up with that fact.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  Virtue signaling is such a great descriptive term for a lot of behavior. It's such a shame that it got politicized.
  - brailsafe 6y ago
    social grandstanding is another good one
SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
“Oh we would never burn book... oh wait.” It really was not that long ago... like 20 years we knew that all the things we’re seeing now are wrong and even had an idea why they were wrong. There is going to be a kick back from all of this. I think we all know it, just not what form it will take.
beaker52 6y ago
I've occasionally observed parallels between the 4chan-esque mob and the woke mob. It's the power of peer pressure combined with the apparently human tendancy to encourage others to do things we know are wrong for our own amusement. It's the playground mentality where a bunch of kids stand around goading another kid into doing something terrible chanting "do it, do it". With each success the groups find new levels of perversion to push their members to.

breakfastduck 6y ago

It's doublethink, there's no other way to really summarize the effect from things like this.

respondo2134 6y ago

especially because the Dr Seuss books are superior literary specimens (how ironic!)

pseudalopex 6y ago

Only annotated editions apparently.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26350364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26350364

Fezzik 6y ago
Interesting! I have only ever read the original - does the annotated edition actually remove all the rampant racism and anti-semitism? Both are rather prevalent topics in the book...
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  Your bio says you're an attorney. I think you know how annotation works.
  - Fezzik 6y ago
    I most certainly do! I was referring to this specific annotated version, which also indicates that it was edited... having read the book I just don’t see how annotations would change anything about how racist and anti-Semitic the book is. EBay’s police indicates that they remove racist and offensive items... there’s nothing about leaving those listings up so long as there is a stern disclaimer that the item is, in fact, quite offensive. I perhaps incorrectly assumed some of the more virulent nonsense was edited out.
    - pseudalopex 6y ago
      The only specific version they mentioned was pulled because it wasn't annotated. I don't know what specific version you mean. Most people wouldn't call a version with just a disclaimer annotated. I assume annotated versions of Mein Kampf refute Hitler's claims.

josefx 6y ago

> Edit, to add: as a comment below notes eBay only allows annotated versions of the book. I wouldn't be surprised if this started as a copyright issue. Bavaria inherited Hitlers copyright and aggressively banned any sale of Mein Kampf, only annotated versions got around that ban and even that was a legal uphill battle as far as I remember.

Shugarl 6y ago

Mein Kampf isn't a children book though. In addition to the be fact that the books are annotated, those who are going to read it will be of enough to get the context surrounding this book