> like a case manager shoving them into temporary jobs for the audit, it's being picky I should have been more clear. Yes, this is exactly what I'm afraid of.

> like a case manager shoving them into temporary jobs for the audit, it's being picky I should have been more clear. Yes, this is exactly what I'm afraid of. 12% of the participants got a new full-time job. Sure, the others who already had full time jobs could have moved up in rank or got a raise, didn't notice that mentioned in the article though. I'd figure that would be a highlight topic. Anyways, only 12% feels like it was that last ditch effort of temp work to make the program look better. A first step, honest full time job, even low quality, that's good. I can't argue with that. But if it was just a temp job shoved on them for the reporting factor... why was the program needed then? Just force people into temp agencies if that's how you're going to pump up your numbers (which I'm not advocating for). >This is a huge problem, if it's unconditional (is it unconditional?) then way more than 1% should be spent on these. Don't get me wrong. I drink and smoke. I don't care if these folks do as well. God knows when I'm stressed the hell out, a good black out drinking session, next morning death like hangover can be a really good mental reset. I have a problem with reporting, "Oh look how great our program worked, people didn't buy booze or cigs." It's such a weird thing to point out a borderline meaningless topic, that I feel like they're hiding something there. Even if I gave a shit they were buying vices, don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining. They used an outside source of money to do so just to make sure the case managers don't get pissed off with them or we're talking about cooked books. Thanks for the links. Even though I'm a negative nancy about this, I'm interested in the results. My thing is, I just want the excel files. I hate well designed reports. I've gone through enough gov and private sector proposals and reports filled with happy faces and magical number results, I want to live in a cave and renounce my citizenship with the human race. Hungry wolves don't bullshit you before draining you of your blood.