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Dude you are disconnected from reality. First off, you're taking the worst of a group (which exist in every group), and extrapolating their beliefs & actions as

by jb775 6y ago

Dude you are disconnected from reality. First off, you're taking the worst of a group (which exist in every group), and extrapolating their beliefs & actions as the norm across the entire group. You obviously believe this is the norm from your words. > To them, oppression is someone challenging their claims, at all, ever. This is entirely backwards. The right is extremely open to debate, but are banned from platforms owned by the left. Hence new popular platforms popping up to cater to them. The left is literally using every ounce of power they have to silence debate (Twitter bans, un-reported news stories from mostly left-owned media, etc). They don't even believe the peasants should be able to dictate the topics of conversation, which is why they jam narratives down peoples throat and use cancel culture to punish anyone speaking against them. Also, what's the "faulty" logic aspect you mention in regards to a marketplace of ideas? It more-so sounds like your cognitive dissonance is kicking in once some common-sense logic is used to knock down your beliefs.

kristopolous 6y ago
Absolute total rubbish. Every word. A few quick hits > Twitter bans They don't want to be accused of "inducement", the same kind that got Kim Dotcom locked up. Bullshit posts leading to death and murder will come back to the platform owners - there's precedence with tabloid press cases. That's what they are doing here. Not facilitating brazenly illegal acts, it's from the lawyers. Silk road guy is sitting in jail for simply providing a marketplace. The platform providers have legal responsibilities. > the peasants should be able to dictate the topics of conversation Total nonsense. Their agenda is constructed by think tanks like the Heritage Foundation, AEI, the Cato institute, the Heartland institution, all backed by powerful multinational billionaire media moguls and heads of industry. SPN and Sinclair isn't "peasant directed". Salem media group practically owns the AM band of radio with hundreds of stations doing nationally syndicated talk shows that pay their hosts millions of dollars to pretend like they're some poor working class oppressed group. They Are The Only Voice On AM Radio. Who is oppressing them when they're the only voice? Rush Limbaugh died with $600 million. They own almost all of it and pretend like they're some snappy underdog. Second, the left doesn't even have a major political party, how do they have any power? How many Socialist or Communist party senators are there? 0. How many have there ever been? 0. SPUSA, the largest socialist political party holds ZERO seats in any office, local county, district, state, federal. Z e r o. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA When was the last time there was a Peace and Freedom governor? A Green Party president, heck even a Party for Socialism and Liberation dog catcher? Hasn't happened since literally the 1930s. Absolute and total made up nonsense. Also the liberals and the left are oppositional. They killed each other in the Paris commune, the Russian Revolution, the Spanish civil war, and the French revolution so go learn the difference, they hate each other. You can go do that on gab and parler and I'll be ok with it there but on hn the rules are about verifiable reality. This is why the "thousand flowers bloom" "marketplace of ideas" petting zoo model is so toxic. People get pilled on multiple 7-layer bullshit cakes
kristopolous 6y ago
Oh one last thing, "common-sense logic" is when people invent stuff entirely from thin air, refuse to check for validation, testing, verification or any evidence and automatically believe it must be real. Then they "disagree" with measured, quantifiable, quantitative, verifiable analysis by calling that "personal beliefs". Take the wacko medical theories during covid for instance. Real data wasn't as important as the most comfortable fiction. When shown to be wrong they'll make up excuses, play with word definitions, move goal posts, anything at all Except for updating their beliefs. Because their made up story feels true so they try to force their perception of reality to fit. This same method was used by the Tobacco industry and Exxon on climate change. It's like how religious people say how a lack of evidence is only a test of your faith. The lack of evidence is the evidence. Speaking of religion, it's also how completely baseless free market theory took hold as well. In fact milton friedman penned numerous essays about how evidence based analysis disrupts the purity of thought when people did quantitative studies showing him wrong. He said his made up logic was way more important than actually testing it. That's why the Chicago school taking over policy has been a total disaster. Because they decided to stop looking at actual results and consequences. So no, common sense logic is totally made up and the fantasies it leads to doesn't mean anything except in the head of the person saying it.

by jb775 6y ago

kristopolous 6y ago

Absolute total rubbish. Every word. A few quick hits > Twitter bans They don't want to be accused of "inducement", the same kind that got Kim Dotcom locked up. Bullshit posts leading to death and murder will come back to the platform owners - there's precedence with tabloid press cases. That's what they are doing here. Not facilitating brazenly illegal acts, it's from the lawyers. Silk road guy is sitting in jail for simply providing a marketplace. The platform providers have legal responsibilities. > the peasants should be able to dictate the topics of conversation Total nonsense. Their agenda is constructed by think tanks like the Heritage Foundation, AEI, the Cato institute, the Heartland institution, all backed by powerful multinational billionaire media moguls and heads of industry. SPN and Sinclair isn't "peasant directed". Salem media group practically owns the AM band of radio with hundreds of stations doing nationally syndicated talk shows that pay their hosts millions of dollars to pretend like they're some poor working class oppressed group. They Are The Only Voice On AM Radio. Who is oppressing them when they're the only voice? Rush Limbaugh died with $600 million. They own almost all of it and pretend like they're some snappy underdog. Second, the left doesn't even have a major political party, how do they have any power? How many Socialist or Communist party senators are there? 0. How many have there ever been? 0. SPUSA, the largest socialist political party holds ZERO seats in any office, local county, district, state, federal. Z e r o. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA When was the last time there was a Peace and Freedom governor? A Green Party president, heck even a Party for Socialism and Liberation dog catcher? Hasn't happened since literally the 1930s. Absolute and total made up nonsense. Also the liberals and the left are oppositional. They killed each other in the Paris commune, the Russian Revolution, the Spanish civil war, and the French revolution so go learn the difference, they hate each other. You can go do that on gab and parler and I'll be ok with it there but on hn the rules are about verifiable reality. This is why the "thousand flowers bloom" "marketplace of ideas" petting zoo model is so toxic. People get pilled on multiple 7-layer bullshit cakes

kristopolous 6y ago

Oh one last thing, "common-sense logic" is when people invent stuff entirely from thin air, refuse to check for validation, testing, verification or any evidence and automatically believe it must be real. Then they "disagree" with measured, quantifiable, quantitative, verifiable analysis by calling that "personal beliefs". Take the wacko medical theories during covid for instance. Real data wasn't as important as the most comfortable fiction. When shown to be wrong they'll make up excuses, play with word definitions, move goal posts, anything at all Except for updating their beliefs. Because their made up story feels true so they try to force their perception of reality to fit. This same method was used by the Tobacco industry and Exxon on climate change. It's like how religious people say how a lack of evidence is only a test of your faith. The lack of evidence is the evidence. Speaking of religion, it's also how completely baseless free market theory took hold as well. In fact milton friedman penned numerous essays about how evidence based analysis disrupts the purity of thought when people did quantitative studies showing him wrong. He said his made up logic was way more important than actually testing it. That's why the Chicago school taking over policy has been a total disaster. Because they decided to stop looking at actual results and consequences. So no, common sense logic is totally made up and the fantasies it leads to doesn't mean anything except in the head of the person saying it.