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UK banned export of some 100 medicines that could be possible treatment for COVID early last year. USA never intended to export vaccines under Trump administra

UK banned export of some 100 medicines that could be possible treatment for COVID early last year. USA never intended to export vaccines under Trump administration, Biden is upholding it. The only difference really is that our EU politicians had big words, but when the rubber hit the read went the same route as everyone else. To be honest, EU politicians were naive. We should have banned all exports very early on as everyone else did and then graciously allow exports on case by case basis to the level we have now. It would have been a lot better optics, but the same practical outcome.

jariel 6y ago
The EU is not 'behind' because of it's naive generosity to other nations. An export ban would have made hardly any difference as production would have probably been aligned around the fact. The EU is not 'naive' - it is 'failing' perhaps the most important test since it's inception. Being a 'few months behind' US/UK/China etc. will mostly ok, but if it's more than 6 months behind, then this failure will resonate for decades. Fair or not fair, right or wrong, the facts will be immaterial to the headlines that will ring for a very, very long time.
- Isinlor 6y ago
  EU is not distributing vaccines. This is up to the states. For example Denmark is doing quite well, but Bulgaria is doing quite bad. So to repeat, healthcare is not a responsibility of the EU.
  - jariel 6y ago
    The end-point of distribution is besides the point. It's not part of the discussion and is not even a problem anywhere really. The EU is definitely the entity responsible for acquiring the vaccines on behalf of nation states - this is what is failing. The 'delay' is not due to Denmark inability to field nurses, it's in the EU's ability to secure product - for whatever reason. And in the end, it won't matter. If the EU ends up 6 months behind other nations 'there will be no excuses'. I think that they'll probably catch up, but there's a real possibility they don't.
    - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
      The EU is definitely the entity responsible for acquiring the vaccines on behalf of nation states Why? This isn't something the EU normally does.
      - jariel 6y ago
        For COVID, the EU decided to band together as a strategic manoeuvre to procure as a single entity. The approach actually makes sense, if everyone was acting rationally and competently it would work. But they screwed it up. Everyone is clamouring about the 'new world order' and 'pivot to Asia' and wondering what the 'Brexit' result would be ... and the optics of this are 'EU in last place'. It's just a bad look, and it's an event that will ring through time with long lasting effects, at least in 'hearts and minds'. There's still chance to catch up however.
        tonyedgecombe 6y ago
        That doesn't answer the question.
fermienrico 6y ago
> USA never intended to export vaccines under Trump administration, Biden is upholding it. As they should. Why would you expect domestic citizens being deprioritized?

jariel 6y ago

The EU is not 'behind' because of it's naive generosity to other nations. An export ban would have made hardly any difference as production would have probably been aligned around the fact. The EU is not 'naive' - it is 'failing' perhaps the most important test since it's inception. Being a 'few months behind' US/UK/China etc. will mostly ok, but if it's more than 6 months behind, then this failure will resonate for decades. Fair or not fair, right or wrong, the facts will be immaterial to the headlines that will ring for a very, very long time.

Isinlor 6y ago
EU is not distributing vaccines. This is up to the states. For example Denmark is doing quite well, but Bulgaria is doing quite bad. So to repeat, healthcare is not a responsibility of the EU.
- jariel 6y ago
  The end-point of distribution is besides the point. It's not part of the discussion and is not even a problem anywhere really. The EU is definitely the entity responsible for acquiring the vaccines on behalf of nation states - this is what is failing. The 'delay' is not due to Denmark inability to field nurses, it's in the EU's ability to secure product - for whatever reason. And in the end, it won't matter. If the EU ends up 6 months behind other nations 'there will be no excuses'. I think that they'll probably catch up, but there's a real possibility they don't.
  - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
    The EU is definitely the entity responsible for acquiring the vaccines on behalf of nation states Why? This isn't something the EU normally does.
    - jariel 6y ago
      For COVID, the EU decided to band together as a strategic manoeuvre to procure as a single entity. The approach actually makes sense, if everyone was acting rationally and competently it would work. But they screwed it up. Everyone is clamouring about the 'new world order' and 'pivot to Asia' and wondering what the 'Brexit' result would be ... and the optics of this are 'EU in last place'. It's just a bad look, and it's an event that will ring through time with long lasting effects, at least in 'hearts and minds'. There's still chance to catch up however.
      - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
        That doesn't answer the question.

fermienrico 6y ago

> USA never intended to export vaccines under Trump administration, Biden is upholding it. As they should. Why would you expect domestic citizens being deprioritized?