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I think the biggest problem is the hubris to known knowledge. One thing I liked about the author was the acknowledgment that Freud made mistakes, but shouldn't

I think the biggest problem is the hubris to known knowledge. One thing I liked about the author was the acknowledgment that Freud made mistakes, but shouldn't be 100% dismissed either. I like relating this to modern atom theory. How vital is the understanding of electrons to atoms these days? It's borderline impossible to imagine how atoms work without knowing anything about electrons. Dalton developed modern atom theory in 1804. Electrons weren't discovered until the 1890s. 90 years of people probably saying, "it's impossible to get tangible results from testing atoms". Freud's theories are almost 100 years old now. We've come a long way... but how more advanced is atomic theory an extra 100 years after electrons were discovered? We are still stupid when it comes to psychology, thus unable to really make tangible results... yet. The faster that concept is respected, I truly think the faster advancements can be made because people won't get hung up on bad pop science declarations from innocent studies that are doing to their best to just discover some grain of truth.

SubiculumCode 6y ago
Freud probably set us back 100 years. So much wasted effort spent pursuing a charlatan's musings.
- NoOneNew 6y ago
  You're right, his work helped stop further vital research into wandering uterus and methods to cure women's tendencies to hysteria and insurrection, like lobotomies. Oh, the good ol' days. Again, he wasn't perfect by any stretch, but his work and push of psychoanalysis is the seed to our current forms of therapy. Yes, modern therapy still isnt perfect for war and trauma induced PTSD but holy shit it's better than cranking up the voltmeter on someone, pumping them full of cocaine and tobacco and snakeoil, or just locking them up in a padded room. This doesn't include some of the archaic religious torture practices some places of the world still utilize to this day. The dude was on the right track compared to the rest of his time. Give credit where credit is due. It's not like you invented the transistor. We all stand on someone else's shoulders. Hindsight is a whole hell of a lot easier than foresight. Again, we dont think Dalton set us back in atomic theory since he was the pioneer. Why the hate for any other pioneer then?
  - SubiculumCode 6y ago
    If he was such a pioneer of psychology and psychiatry, why is Freud pointedly ignored in Psychology and Psychiatry departments? And seriously, was the idea of subconscious motivations that innovative for his time?

SubiculumCode 6y ago

Freud probably set us back 100 years. So much wasted effort spent pursuing a charlatan's musings.

NoOneNew 6y ago
You're right, his work helped stop further vital research into wandering uterus and methods to cure women's tendencies to hysteria and insurrection, like lobotomies. Oh, the good ol' days. Again, he wasn't perfect by any stretch, but his work and push of psychoanalysis is the seed to our current forms of therapy. Yes, modern therapy still isnt perfect for war and trauma induced PTSD but holy shit it's better than cranking up the voltmeter on someone, pumping them full of cocaine and tobacco and snakeoil, or just locking them up in a padded room. This doesn't include some of the archaic religious torture practices some places of the world still utilize to this day. The dude was on the right track compared to the rest of his time. Give credit where credit is due. It's not like you invented the transistor. We all stand on someone else's shoulders. Hindsight is a whole hell of a lot easier than foresight. Again, we dont think Dalton set us back in atomic theory since he was the pioneer. Why the hate for any other pioneer then?
- SubiculumCode 6y ago
  If he was such a pioneer of psychology and psychiatry, why is Freud pointedly ignored in Psychology and Psychiatry departments? And seriously, was the idea of subconscious motivations that innovative for his time?