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There is far more to non-religious views of subjectivity than the simplistic, materialistic negationism. You're beating a straw man here. See http://en.wikiped
by pygy_ 15y ago
There is far more to non-religious views of subjectivity than the simplistic, materialistic negationism. You're beating a straw man here.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_Mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_Mind for the details.
- yters 15y agoMaterialistic negationism is the only coherent position, since there is only material. Everything else is just as religious as the religions that atheists bash.
- pygy_ 15y agoWhat about your own subjectivity? How would you explain the difference between red and blue to a blind man, or what it feels like to fall in love to a robot without the appropriate subjective apparatus (or even to someone who never did (yes, it exists))? See http://clm.utexas.edu/~compjc/papers/Tononi2008a.pdf http://clm.utexas.edu/~compjc/papers/Tononi2008a.pdf and the next two links for what I bet my money on regarding scientific theories of consciousness. http://www.coma.ulg.ac.be/papers/vs/boly_PBR_coma_science_2009.pdf http://www.coma.ulg.ac.be/papers/vs/boly_PBR_coma_science_20... http://www.coma.ulg.ac.be/papers/vs/massimini_PBR_coma_science_2009.pdf http://www.coma.ulg.ac.be/papers/vs/massimini_PBR_coma_scien...