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Smaller than the energy required to run Ireland, unlike bitcoin. An algorithm designed to be wasteful in energy wasting energy is not something we should be sho
by konjin 6y ago
Smaller than the energy required to run Ireland, unlike bitcoin. An algorithm designed to be wasteful in energy wasting energy is not something we should be shocked at.
- FDSGSG 6y agoThe US military certainly consumes more energy than Ireland.
- anoonmoose 6y agoHmm, a cursory glance on the topic made me think it's certainly possible, but not a guarantee. According to this[0] Wikipedia article, the DoD used less than Denmark, which is smaller than Ireland, but that data is outdated... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_usage_of_the_United_States_military https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_usage_of_the_United_Sta...
- p_l 6y agoAnd that consumption does not go away with BTC
- karpour 6y agoNice whataboutism. 10/10. And yes, the U.S. military should massively downscale.
- ric2b 6y agoIsn't this entire discussion the definition of whataboutism? We're all focusing on Bitcoin as if killing it would stop global warming or something. There are dozens of different things we could be criticizing when it comes to pollution.
- pwinnski 6y agoAnd we do! For many years! Just not on this thread. Global climate change won't be slowed or stopped by a single silver bullet. It will take reduction in many, many areas combined, and many of those are already underway, have been underway for years now. Meanwhile, all of those savings are being offset by wasteful-by-design crypto mining that benefits extraordinarily few people. So yes, in addition to the many, many, many reports on various other major contributors to ongoing climate change, it's time to talk about crypto mining, too.
- effie 6y agoAnd what was the effect of those many years on global yearly CO2 production? Did it decrease? If we are to waste time talking about polluting classes, let's focus on the big ones first. Naval transport, coal power plants. These should be regulated first.
- stjohnswarts 6y agoI agree as long as China and Russia also eliminate their military down to equivalent levels with unlimited auditability between the 3 countries.
- FDSGSG 6y agoI'm not sure you know what that word means. Pointing out a factual inaccuracy in the parent comment isn't "whataboutism". US military isn't a different issue, it's an integral part of the USD-based financial system.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoIs it your contention that the sole purpose of the US military is to back the value of a dollar? Because if that is the case, and you are still unable to see why people think you're silly, then there is little hope for you.
- FDSGSG 6y agoOf course not, why would you think that? It's just a necessary part of the USD-based financial system.
- stjohnswarts 6y agoSo what do you think would happen if the US military disappeared tomorrow leaving China and Russia as the two big guys? World War 3 for years? How much would change if bitcoin disappeared tomorrow? Probably a stock market dip.
- abstractbarista 6y agoYou have to include the energy used to power the US military, among other things too. The value of the Dollar is inextricably tied to the threat of force. Bitcoin, on the other hand, offers trust through proof of work, not violence.