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Am I in the minority who’s okay with forgoing repairability for the better design and integration? I really don’t want a cheap back cover that pops off and take

by dmak 6y ago

Am I in the minority who’s okay with forgoing repairability for the better design and integration? I really don’t want a cheap back cover that pops off and takes up milimeters of space.

southerntofu 6y ago
According to my very unscientific measurement of user dissatisfaction with irreparable products, you are in the minority. Also please keep in mind besides our personal feelings as users, such matters have a strong influence on the environment. More computers/smartphones have been produced than there are human beings on earth, yet we keep producing more. Planned obsolescence is a crime against humanity.
accurrent 6y ago
I don't see why something can't be repairable and have good ergonomics/aesthetics. Just because something is repairable doesn't mean it needs to be made of cheap plastic or pops off easily. The bigger issue here is (1) e-waste, (2) critical infrastructure.
ohgodplsno 6y ago
This law doesn't prevent you from gluing your phone shut, as a manufacturer. You can very much justify it with saying it's the only way to give IP68. However, you are encouraged to think about it thoroughly, and above all give out the schematics to fix it should the need arise. Additionally, you haven't read the article properly because it concerns mostly large appliances like washing machines, dishwashers, fridges, etc. This is not exactly the kind of devices where you'll pop off covers and save up millimeters of space.
rocgf 6y ago
I definitely hope you are in the minority. I will just tell you how your comment sounded to me. "I don't care about the biggest challenge humanity is facing at the moment if that means I will have to be slightly inconvenienced by the design and integration of products."
lousken 6y ago
with regular house appliances i dont really see an issue with adding milimeters on my dishwasher, blender or whatever
michaelt 6y ago
Some would say everyone who puts their phone in a case is someone who prefers a back cover that pops off and takes up milimeters of space. And a lot of people use phone cases. Of course, it's also true a lot of people don't use phone cases.
- southerntofu 6y ago
  > a lot of people don't use phone cases. Very unscientific measurement: all people i know who don't use a phone case is because they couldn't easily find one for their phone and/or reuse their previous one. If mobile phones had standard sizes, every one would use a phone case and there would be less broken phones overall.

by dmak 6y ago

Am I in the minority who’s okay with forgoing repairability for the better design and integration? I really don’t want a cheap back cover that pops off and takes up milimeters of space.

southerntofu 6y ago

According to my very unscientific measurement of user dissatisfaction with irreparable products, you are in the minority. Also please keep in mind besides our personal feelings as users, such matters have a strong influence on the environment. More computers/smartphones have been produced than there are human beings on earth, yet we keep producing more. Planned obsolescence is a crime against humanity.

accurrent 6y ago

I don't see why something can't be repairable and have good ergonomics/aesthetics. Just because something is repairable doesn't mean it needs to be made of cheap plastic or pops off easily. The bigger issue here is (1) e-waste, (2) critical infrastructure.

ohgodplsno 6y ago

This law doesn't prevent you from gluing your phone shut, as a manufacturer. You can very much justify it with saying it's the only way to give IP68. However, you are encouraged to think about it thoroughly, and above all give out the schematics to fix it should the need arise. Additionally, you haven't read the article properly because it concerns mostly large appliances like washing machines, dishwashers, fridges, etc. This is not exactly the kind of devices where you'll pop off covers and save up millimeters of space.

rocgf 6y ago

I definitely hope you are in the minority. I will just tell you how your comment sounded to me. "I don't care about the biggest challenge humanity is facing at the moment if that means I will have to be slightly inconvenienced by the design and integration of products."

lousken 6y ago

with regular house appliances i dont really see an issue with adding milimeters on my dishwasher, blender or whatever

michaelt 6y ago

Some would say everyone who puts their phone in a case is someone who prefers a back cover that pops off and takes up milimeters of space. And a lot of people use phone cases. Of course, it's also true a lot of people don't use phone cases.

southerntofu 6y ago
> a lot of people don't use phone cases. Very unscientific measurement: all people i know who don't use a phone case is because they couldn't easily find one for their phone and/or reuse their previous one. If mobile phones had standard sizes, every one would use a phone case and there would be less broken phones overall.