> No, its not at all the same. Tesla sell a lot in the US even outside of insentives. Not much. This comparison includes apparently also plugin hybrids (So BEV

> No, its not at all the same. Tesla sell a lot in the US even outside of insentives. Not much. This comparison includes apparently also plugin hybrids (So BEV and PHEV combined) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car_use_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car_use_by_country Out of all new cars 1.9% were plugins in US in 2020 18.1% were plugins in Finland. 74.7% in Norway. And they were not full EV's over here. Only less than 2% is full EV here (which is still more than what's sold in US). The majority is basic family movers like Volkswagen Passats and whatnot that allow daily driving to work with electricity and then for summer cabin one can go with gas. I do understand why consumers are not enthusiastic about them in US. As in some cases it can be cheaper to just go with gas than use electricity. Over here its overwhelmingly cheaper to drive with electricity. As an example the RAV4 PHEV costs around 30-50% to drive using the EV mode instead of fueling using the average price of household electricity here. > Sorry I mixed up PHEV and FCEV. Our dicussions is about FCEV but I wrote PHEV, that is just a hybrid with a plug. Yeah FCEV's have a hard time going forwards. Unlike plug cars that can be charged at home with FCEV the full chicken and egg problem in refueling is there. Perhaps someday, but in general overcoming those problems is really really hard. > Also, for PHEV the emissions are often understated. Yeah. Especially when there is no significant savings with charging. As gas costs closer to $8 per gallon over here actually charging is far more common. It's so much cheaper to drive with the battery than by using gas. It's basically all about economics. Make it cheaper and people will buy. Expensive status symbols only go so far.