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I am pretty sure they were not all in one elderly home. In a brief look at the BMJ paper I did not see that claim, and besides I think such a dramatic incident

by hanche 6y ago

I am pretty sure they were not all in one elderly home. In a brief look at the BMJ paper I did not see that claim, and besides I think such a dramatic incident would have made a much bigger splash in the news.

panny 6y ago
>I am pretty sure they were not all in one elderly home 46 residents of the Nuestra Señora del Rosario home in Spain died after receiving the shot. https://sevilla.abc.es/andalucia/cadiz/sevi-brote-residencia-barrios-provoca-46-muertes-coronavirus-202102040941_noticia.html https://sevilla.abc.es/andalucia/cadiz/sevi-brote-residencia... I can't find the article I read on the 23 in Norway weeks ago which stated the name of the home at this moment. Perhaps they were mistaken and retracted. I think it is safe to say anyone who claims no one has died after receiving the shot is not being honest. There are LOTS of cases of this happening.
- hanche 6y ago
  > 46 residents of the Nuestra Señora del Rosario home in Spain died after receiving the shot. Ouch. I would suspect some procedural error there, but who knows? Back to Norway. I searched a bit more for articles about the 23. No evidence they were concentrated like that. All of them were over 80, most over 90, all of them were extremely frail to begin with. In those circumstances, it is to be expected that many would die under any circumstance, and for sure, the side effects of the vaccine may have pushed some over the edge. As of 23 February, the number has risen to 102. Health authorities keep a close eye on these numbers, of course, but still see no reason for alarm. > I think it is safe to say anyone who claims no one has died after receiving the shot is not being honest. Not honest, or not thinking it through. In the discussion elsewhere in this thread, there seems to be some confusion due to the fact that someone is talking only about those enrolled in the trials, while others are talking about all vaccinated people.
  - reedjosh 6y ago
    What good does this make the vaccines? Aren't the vaccines only really desirable for the elderly? The risk factors for the disease are mainly age and underlying comorbidities, but if the same people aren't receiving it well? On top of the MRNA having no claims yet that it prevents transmission.
- tptacek 6y ago
  No, there aren't. We're vaccinating at a massive scale in the US, concentrating on the elderly, and the events you're talking about simply aren't happening.

by hanche 6y ago

panny 6y ago

>I am pretty sure they were not all in one elderly home 46 residents of the Nuestra Señora del Rosario home in Spain died after receiving the shot. https://sevilla.abc.es/andalucia/cadiz/sevi-brote-residencia-barrios-provoca-46-muertes-coronavirus-202102040941_noticia.html https://sevilla.abc.es/andalucia/cadiz/sevi-brote-residencia... I can't find the article I read on the 23 in Norway weeks ago which stated the name of the home at this moment. Perhaps they were mistaken and retracted. I think it is safe to say anyone who claims no one has died after receiving the shot is not being honest. There are LOTS of cases of this happening.

hanche 6y ago
> 46 residents of the Nuestra Señora del Rosario home in Spain died after receiving the shot. Ouch. I would suspect some procedural error there, but who knows? Back to Norway. I searched a bit more for articles about the 23. No evidence they were concentrated like that. All of them were over 80, most over 90, all of them were extremely frail to begin with. In those circumstances, it is to be expected that many would die under any circumstance, and for sure, the side effects of the vaccine may have pushed some over the edge. As of 23 February, the number has risen to 102. Health authorities keep a close eye on these numbers, of course, but still see no reason for alarm. > I think it is safe to say anyone who claims no one has died after receiving the shot is not being honest. Not honest, or not thinking it through. In the discussion elsewhere in this thread, there seems to be some confusion due to the fact that someone is talking only about those enrolled in the trials, while others are talking about all vaccinated people.
- reedjosh 6y ago
  What good does this make the vaccines? Aren't the vaccines only really desirable for the elderly? The risk factors for the disease are mainly age and underlying comorbidities, but if the same people aren't receiving it well? On top of the MRNA having no claims yet that it prevents transmission.
tptacek 6y ago
No, there aren't. We're vaccinating at a massive scale in the US, concentrating on the elderly, and the events you're talking about simply aren't happening.