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I'm young and healthy, with less than 0.4% risks of dying, so I think I'll pass for the time being, and leave my dose to those who want it. I'm super happy to

by 1996 6y ago

I'm young and healthy, with less than 0.4% risks of dying, so I think I'll pass for the time being, and leave my dose to those who want it. I'm super happy to give it to them, as I want as many people vaccinated to protect me (herd immunity) without being vaccinated myself to avoid the rare risk of side effects that will be known better in a year or two from now. Yeah, I'm selfish. And no, I don't care about people possibly dying. They should get vaccinated! They should take any vaccine! Actually, I wish I could resell the dose the government wants to give me to someone from a country that doesn't have enough vaccine, like on ebay. Unfortunately, in my experience, it doesn't work: I tried to do that before during the H1N1 scare with the help of friends and the parcels didn't reach the buyers.

xur17 6y ago
Just to make sure I understand - you tried to resell the H1N1 vaccine?
- 1996 6y ago
  Yes, back in 2009, I was a student and I thought "easy money!" :) It was in very high demand, and I could get some, so I figured, let the great material continuum provide to those who need it and have the money to pay for our efforts! Unfortunately the customs hassled the customers for paperwork (the health market is so overregulated!) who then hassled me. I was just in for a quick buck, and the vaccines were legit with all the barcodes and stuff, new in a manufacturer box, still sealed, so I didn't understand why! Still, I did a few rounds giving the required documentation each time, until I realized the customs agents were just finding excuses to block the parcels, and more likely to keep the content for themselves or their family instead of my clients who had paid for it, or maybe for reselling themselves, as one dose was reselling for over 400 in some markets! So I gave up and issued refunds, even if it was not my fault that the parcel didn't reach the customers. I should have lied about the content! Little did I know back then, I was young and naive and I thought the laws in the West meant something. Still, it taught me some good lessons: don't deal with physical goods whenever possible! Don't deal with stuff that's full of regulations! In a way, it helped define me, as the next schoolyear I got into crypto.
  - joshz404 6y ago
    Uhm well yes, medical products are nearly universally regulated. And often don't make it past customs - it's pretty suspect to try to ship a regulated product without proper documentation.
samus 6y ago
> I'm young and healthy, with less than 0.4% risks of dying, so I think I'll pass for the time being, and leave my dose to those who want it. Your argument is based on a superficial interpretation of these 0.4% of "risks". Let's assume you mean Covid, and not paper cuts or meteorite impacts. 0.4% is no promise that you won't die if you get it. Also, death rate is not the only factor that should be taken into account. Covid can seriously mess up your health even if you are young and healthy and survive. A point that should also convice those that think selfishly: the faster herd immunity is achieved, the sooner this whole story ends. This should reduce the need for further lockdowns and also reduce the risk of some mutation of Covid-19 coming back. The seasonal influenca has been pretty much disrupted by the lockdowns and the sharp reduction in international travelling. Surely nobody misses them. Let's make the most out of it and ensure there is not going to be seasonal Covid in the future.
viklove 6y ago
Didn't realize we had anti-vaxxers in the Millenial/Gen-Z demographic but I guess idiots know no bounds...
- 1996 6y ago
  I'm not anti vaxxer: I will be happy to take any vaccine after at least 1 year has elapsed for 10M people having received that vaccine - and I will prefer non mRNA if possible, as it is an old technology therefore very well known, and if possible the vaccine that has been injected on the most people, because it will be the one that is best known. I know that >10M people have been for 1 month, and I know that at least 10'000 people have received the vaccine about 1 year ago ago in phase 2 tests, but this is 2 separate things, while what I'm asking for is the cumulative thing. As for why, I decide what is injected in my body and I set my own safety benchmarks. You may call that idiocy. I call that freedom.
  - viklove 6y ago
    > You may call that idiocy. I call that freedom. No, I call it selfishness. You're free to be a narcissist if you want, of course!

by 1996 6y ago

xur17 6y ago

Just to make sure I understand - you tried to resell the H1N1 vaccine?

1996 6y ago
Yes, back in 2009, I was a student and I thought "easy money!" :) It was in very high demand, and I could get some, so I figured, let the great material continuum provide to those who need it and have the money to pay for our efforts! Unfortunately the customs hassled the customers for paperwork (the health market is so overregulated!) who then hassled me. I was just in for a quick buck, and the vaccines were legit with all the barcodes and stuff, new in a manufacturer box, still sealed, so I didn't understand why! Still, I did a few rounds giving the required documentation each time, until I realized the customs agents were just finding excuses to block the parcels, and more likely to keep the content for themselves or their family instead of my clients who had paid for it, or maybe for reselling themselves, as one dose was reselling for over 400 in some markets! So I gave up and issued refunds, even if it was not my fault that the parcel didn't reach the customers. I should have lied about the content! Little did I know back then, I was young and naive and I thought the laws in the West meant something. Still, it taught me some good lessons: don't deal with physical goods whenever possible! Don't deal with stuff that's full of regulations! In a way, it helped define me, as the next schoolyear I got into crypto.
- joshz404 6y ago
  Uhm well yes, medical products are nearly universally regulated. And often don't make it past customs - it's pretty suspect to try to ship a regulated product without proper documentation.

samus 6y ago

> I'm young and healthy, with less than 0.4% risks of dying, so I think I'll pass for the time being, and leave my dose to those who want it. Your argument is based on a superficial interpretation of these 0.4% of "risks". Let's assume you mean Covid, and not paper cuts or meteorite impacts. 0.4% is no promise that you won't die if you get it. Also, death rate is not the only factor that should be taken into account. Covid can seriously mess up your health even if you are young and healthy and survive. A point that should also convice those that think selfishly: the faster herd immunity is achieved, the sooner this whole story ends. This should reduce the need for further lockdowns and also reduce the risk of some mutation of Covid-19 coming back. The seasonal influenca has been pretty much disrupted by the lockdowns and the sharp reduction in international travelling. Surely nobody misses them. Let's make the most out of it and ensure there is not going to be seasonal Covid in the future.

viklove 6y ago

Didn't realize we had anti-vaxxers in the Millenial/Gen-Z demographic but I guess idiots know no bounds...

1996 6y ago
I'm not anti vaxxer: I will be happy to take any vaccine after at least 1 year has elapsed for 10M people having received that vaccine - and I will prefer non mRNA if possible, as it is an old technology therefore very well known, and if possible the vaccine that has been injected on the most people, because it will be the one that is best known. I know that >10M people have been for 1 month, and I know that at least 10'000 people have received the vaccine about 1 year ago ago in phase 2 tests, but this is 2 separate things, while what I'm asking for is the cumulative thing. As for why, I decide what is injected in my body and I set my own safety benchmarks. You may call that idiocy. I call that freedom.
- viklove 6y ago
  > You may call that idiocy. I call that freedom. No, I call it selfishness. You're free to be a narcissist if you want, of course!