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That sentence is an outright lie. Tim Zook died after taking it. Sonia Acevedo died after taking it. Sara Beltran Ponce had a miscarriage after taking it. [1,2

by panny 6y ago

That sentence is an outright lie. Tim Zook died after taking it. Sonia Acevedo died after taking it. Sara Beltran Ponce had a miscarriage after taking it. [1,2] [1] https://twitter.com/SaraBelPonMD/status/1354890858789744641 https://twitter.com/SaraBelPonMD/status/1354890858789744641 [2] https://archive.is/cGNNK https://archive.is/cGNNK

oh_sigh 6y ago
Tim and Sonia are not part of the trials being talked about
- panny 6y ago
  >Since the beginning of the trials, all trials, there has not been a single death or hospitalization among people vaccinated. The statement clearly says, since the date when trials began, there have been no deaths among all people who received the shot. This is obviously an untrue statement and misinformation.
  - oh_sigh 6y ago
    I'll just say that is a very strange reading of the sentence. There's really no where to go with this exchange if we can't even agree on that.
    - TylerE 6y ago
      None of which are qualifies given in the GP
stickfigure 6y ago
In the context of the article, the implication of that sentence was "there has not been a single death or hospitalization [from covid]". I thought that would also be clear from the context of this thread, but maybe not. Out of curiosity I googled those names. Tim Zook: https://www.fox5ny.com/news/vaccine-ruled-out-as-cause-of-death-in-california-man https://www.fox5ny.com/news/vaccine-ruled-out-as-cause-of-de... (the slug tells it all) Sonia Acevedo: https://in.news.yahoo.com/sonia-acevedo-portuguese-health-worker-103452201.html https://in.news.yahoo.com/sonia-acevedo-portuguese-health-wo... (basically, nothing conclusive yet) We're talking about tens of millions (soon billions) of doses. I'm sure there will be some bad reactions, but there's definitely going to be a lot of simple coincidences too. I'm sure I don't need to repost the XKCD on correlation/causation here.

by panny 6y ago

oh_sigh 6y ago

Tim and Sonia are not part of the trials being talked about

panny 6y ago
>Since the beginning of the trials, all trials, there has not been a single death or hospitalization among people vaccinated. The statement clearly says, since the date when trials began, there have been no deaths among all people who received the shot. This is obviously an untrue statement and misinformation.
- oh_sigh 6y ago
  I'll just say that is a very strange reading of the sentence. There's really no where to go with this exchange if we can't even agree on that.
  - TylerE 6y ago
    None of which are qualifies given in the GP

stickfigure 6y ago

In the context of the article, the implication of that sentence was "there has not been a single death or hospitalization [from covid]". I thought that would also be clear from the context of this thread, but maybe not. Out of curiosity I googled those names. Tim Zook: https://www.fox5ny.com/news/vaccine-ruled-out-as-cause-of-death-in-california-man https://www.fox5ny.com/news/vaccine-ruled-out-as-cause-of-de... (the slug tells it all) Sonia Acevedo: https://in.news.yahoo.com/sonia-acevedo-portuguese-health-worker-103452201.html https://in.news.yahoo.com/sonia-acevedo-portuguese-health-wo... (basically, nothing conclusive yet) We're talking about tens of millions (soon billions) of doses. I'm sure there will be some bad reactions, but there's definitely going to be a lot of simple coincidences too. I'm sure I don't need to repost the XKCD on correlation/causation here.