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I guess it's not bad for a fanless 10-watt SoC the size of a stamp on an entry-level portable computer in a browser. To get that kind of performance nearly 10

I guess it's not bad for a fanless 10-watt SoC the size of a stamp on an entry-level portable computer in a browser. To get that kind of performance nearly 10 years ago in a desktop GPU, I bet you would need a whole lot of dollars, watts, and cube inches. It is impressive unless you compare apples to oranges. Plus, on bare metal it reaches 2.6 TFLOPs already.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago
>entry-level portable computer Not all computers are Macs and at €1000 starting price, it's the entry level Mac but by no means an entry level computer. Entry level computers are in the €400 ballpark (i5/4500U, 8GB RAM, 256 SSD). For €1000 you could get a pretty strong gaming computer which is by no means entry level.
- jbjbjbjb 6y ago
  Entry level m1 is a quite a bit cheaper than that in euros.
  - ChuckNorris89 6y ago
    MSRP is actually quite a bit more, almost €1129. https://www.apple.com/at/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.apple.com/at/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air Not saying you can't find it under that on some promotion somewhere but that really depends on market timing and on where you live. For example in Austria you can't find it under €999 and that's definitely not entry level money as Apple's entry level comes at a premium and is not representative of the entire PC market entry level.
    - littlestymaar 6y ago
      Note that the price in Euro (almost?) always includes VAT, while in USD it almost never does. Which explains why albeit $1 < 1€, the displayed euro price is higher than the dollar price. That being said, I agree with all you said.
    - jbjbjbjb 6y ago
      I was looking at Mac mini m1 on the German Apple store, for 799.
chungus_khan 6y ago
Nearly 10 years ago a 2.6 TFLOP (FP32) GTX 660ti cost about $300 and had a TDP of 150w.
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- thitcanh 6y ago
  Kinda proving my point then? Power usage 15x higher and $300 is just for a card that is probably as big as a whole Mac Mini. Now add the rest of the components and the prices, wattage and size shoots up exactly as described.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago

>entry-level portable computer Not all computers are Macs and at €1000 starting price, it's the entry level Mac but by no means an entry level computer. Entry level computers are in the €400 ballpark (i5/4500U, 8GB RAM, 256 SSD). For €1000 you could get a pretty strong gaming computer which is by no means entry level.

jbjbjbjb 6y ago
Entry level m1 is a quite a bit cheaper than that in euros.
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago
  MSRP is actually quite a bit more, almost €1129. https://www.apple.com/at/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.apple.com/at/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air Not saying you can't find it under that on some promotion somewhere but that really depends on market timing and on where you live. For example in Austria you can't find it under €999 and that's definitely not entry level money as Apple's entry level comes at a premium and is not representative of the entire PC market entry level.
  - littlestymaar 6y ago
    Note that the price in Euro (almost?) always includes VAT, while in USD it almost never does. Which explains why albeit $1 < 1€, the displayed euro price is higher than the dollar price. That being said, I agree with all you said.
  - jbjbjbjb 6y ago
    I was looking at Mac mini m1 on the German Apple store, for 799.

chungus_khan 6y ago

Nearly 10 years ago a 2.6 TFLOP (FP32) GTX 660ti cost about $300 and had a TDP of 150w.

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thitcanh 6y ago
Kinda proving my point then? Power usage 15x higher and $300 is just for a card that is probably as big as a whole Mac Mini. Now add the rest of the components and the prices, wattage and size shoots up exactly as described.