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Or, more simply, political beliefs and values are real and the conflict between two specific ones is much more important than it used to be so people are taking

Or, more simply, political beliefs and values are real and the conflict between two specific ones is much more important than it used to be so people are taking it more seriously. Isn't that ... that's the analysis anyone would have for another country or historical period with the exact same dynamic. It's probably not actually "kids these days", only because it never has been so far.

bgorman 6y ago
Your statement rings hollow to me. Previous generations were literally sent to die in the world wars, Korea and Vietnam. The current generation of recent college graduates has had less suffering than any prior generation. It is extremely difficult to tell the difference between a Republican or Democrat if you just look at the results and not their rhetoric.
- conception 6y ago
  500k dead Americans disagree.
  - akotlar 6y ago
    Are you arguing that Covid disproportionately kills the young (current generations)?
alsetmusic 6y ago
> Or, more simply, political beliefs and values are real and the conflict between two specific ones is much more important than it used to be so people are taking it more seriously. That American politics have become so bifurcated is the problem. We need more than two parties and we need runoff voting to reinforce their ability to survive. Then we can get out of this black and white / us vs them nonsense and see shades of grey. There are people who don’t subscribe to either party and I don’t just mean independents. That’s a term that’s limited in use to describing anyone who’s not a member of the two “recognized” parties, rather than a defined party.
spiralx 6y ago
> Or, more simply, political beliefs and values are real and the conflict between two specific ones is much more important than it used to be so people are taking it more seriously. Social media gives everyone a single place in which to express their opinions on matters large and small, whereas previously they might only have been able to share those opinions with friends. I don't think it's obvious to say people are more politically opinionated without considering how much having a place to express those opinions, find others in agreement and possibly even have that opinion affect the real world has had on how vocal people are about things they opinions they had anyway.

bgorman 6y ago

Your statement rings hollow to me. Previous generations were literally sent to die in the world wars, Korea and Vietnam. The current generation of recent college graduates has had less suffering than any prior generation. It is extremely difficult to tell the difference between a Republican or Democrat if you just look at the results and not their rhetoric.

conception 6y ago
500k dead Americans disagree.
- akotlar 6y ago
  Are you arguing that Covid disproportionately kills the young (current generations)?

alsetmusic 6y ago

> Or, more simply, political beliefs and values are real and the conflict between two specific ones is much more important than it used to be so people are taking it more seriously. That American politics have become so bifurcated is the problem. We need more than two parties and we need runoff voting to reinforce their ability to survive. Then we can get out of this black and white / us vs them nonsense and see shades of grey. There are people who don’t subscribe to either party and I don’t just mean independents. That’s a term that’s limited in use to describing anyone who’s not a member of the two “recognized” parties, rather than a defined party.

spiralx 6y ago

> Or, more simply, political beliefs and values are real and the conflict between two specific ones is much more important than it used to be so people are taking it more seriously. Social media gives everyone a single place in which to express their opinions on matters large and small, whereas previously they might only have been able to share those opinions with friends. I don't think it's obvious to say people are more politically opinionated without considering how much having a place to express those opinions, find others in agreement and possibly even have that opinion affect the real world has had on how vocal people are about things they opinions they had anyway.