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It eliminates the possibility they were planted in reaction to Trump's remarks on the 6th. It was a seperate event.

denkmoon 6y ago
and? I fail to see the relevance. Trump wasn't telling people to plant pipe bombs, at any stage, ever. It was organised and orchestrated solely by his supporters, in the same way that this 4th of March inauguration thing was invented and potentially to be orchestrated purely by his supporters. That doesn't make it any less wrong.
- offby37years 6y ago
  Unless you have evidence contrary, we have no idea the ideological lean of whoever placed those bombs. They were planted at both the Democratic and Republican headquarters, remember? Associating the act with the events on the day that followed is unsubstantiated.
  - denkmoon 6y ago
    And not associating the act of placing pipe bombs with a riot that occurred the next day is naive. Planting bombs at both political party headquarters sure seems like the action of someone that is disgruntled with the entire system. Perhaps someone that would go on to riot against the peaceful transfer of power within that system.
    - offby37years 6y ago
      > And not associating the act of placing pipe bombs with a riot that occurred the next day is naive. Exactly. We don't prosecute based on whims, but tangible evidence. You'd be wise to do the same.
      - denkmoon 6y ago
        Good thing we're on HackerNews and not a court of law then. Cool air of superiority too. Besides, who placed the bomb, again, does not influence the heinousness of the act. Placing pipe bombs at political party headquarters is an atrocious thing to do, and relevant agencies in DC are right to be on edge about this kind of behaviour. That is not "maximising", it is a prudent course of action.
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Terretta 6y ago
Why should the remarks on the 6th be relevant or considered separate? Seems clear the President could have stayed back in the White House that day, as he’d made enough remarks for weeks and months to get folks to show up loaded for bear. It’s not like they went shopping after the speech started... No idea why the remarks that day are seen as the thing as if in a vacuum.

and? I fail to see the relevance. Trump wasn't telling people to plant pipe bombs, at any stage, ever. It was organised and orchestrated solely by his supporters, in the same way that this 4th of March inauguration thing was invented and potentially to be orchestrated purely by his supporters. That doesn't make it any less wrong.

offby37years 6y ago
Unless you have evidence contrary, we have no idea the ideological lean of whoever placed those bombs. They were planted at both the Democratic and Republican headquarters, remember? Associating the act with the events on the day that followed is unsubstantiated.
- denkmoon 6y ago
  And not associating the act of placing pipe bombs with a riot that occurred the next day is naive. Planting bombs at both political party headquarters sure seems like the action of someone that is disgruntled with the entire system. Perhaps someone that would go on to riot against the peaceful transfer of power within that system.
  - offby37years 6y ago
    > And not associating the act of placing pipe bombs with a riot that occurred the next day is naive. Exactly. We don't prosecute based on whims, but tangible evidence. You'd be wise to do the same.
    - denkmoon 6y ago
      Good thing we're on HackerNews and not a court of law then. Cool air of superiority too. Besides, who placed the bomb, again, does not influence the heinousness of the act. Placing pipe bombs at political party headquarters is an atrocious thing to do, and relevant agencies in DC are right to be on edge about this kind of behaviour. That is not "maximising", it is a prudent course of action.

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Terretta 6y ago

Why should the remarks on the 6th be relevant or considered separate? Seems clear the President could have stayed back in the White House that day, as he’d made enough remarks for weeks and months to get folks to show up loaded for bear. It’s not like they went shopping after the speech started... No idea why the remarks that day are seen as the thing as if in a vacuum.