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Ok, my Pixel 4 phone has 950 Gigaflops??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_processors#Snapdragon_855_and_855+_(2019) https://en.wikipe

by lsb 6y ago

Ok, my Pixel 4 phone has 950 Gigaflops??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_processors#Snapdragon_855_and_855+_(2019) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_pr...

SekstiNi 6y ago
From the article: > Hitting nearly 1TFlops in the browser (50% of peak) is extremely empowering and it's exciting to see such technology available.
ghego1 6y ago
Thanks for pointing this out. This does put things in perspective. While it's true that achieving that in the browser is something, this sounds much less interesting and a lot more like the usual hype.
LockAndLol 6y ago
So much for an "amazing M1". So it's as performant as a chip that was in a phone released a year prior.
- float4 6y ago
  A passively cooled M1 beats a Ryzen 3900X, an i7, and an i9 in most benchmarks[0]. But if you want to pick this single benchmark so that you can conclude that the M1 is not better than a mobile phone SoC from a year ago, then you do you. [0] https://tech.ssut.me/apple-m1-chip-benchmarks-focused-on-the-real-world-programming/ https://tech.ssut.me/apple-m1-chip-benchmarks-focused-on-the...
  - eertami 6y ago
    Some of those tests are realistically testing RAM speed more than CPU power. Yet he has the 3900x configured with only 1600Mhz memory clock compared to 2133Mhz on the M1. The single core performance of these chips is very impressive, especially at such a TDP, but in raw multi-core CPU power it simply does not beat a 3900x. But if you want to pick one set of benchmark tests so that you can conclude that the 3900X from two years ago is not better than an M1, then you do you.
    - float4 6y ago
      > but in raw multi-core CPU power it simply does not beat a 3900x I agree. > if you want to pick one set of benchmark tests so that you can conclude that the 3900X from two years ago is not better than an M1 The thread was clearly about M1 vs mobile phone SoCs. I just gave some benchmarks to show that the M1 is not a mobile phone SoC but can instead compete with very decent laptop/desktop CPUs. The 3900X wasn't the main point. I even own a 5950X myself. > you do you. In all fairness: I shouldn't have used that phrasing.
- pwinnski 6y ago
  The M1 hits roughly three times what the Snapdragon does outside of the browser. So it's about three times as performant in raw score. Or, as the parent link says, INSIDE the browser, it hits 900 GFlops, which is absolutely amazing.
setBoolean 6y ago
The Snapdragon 855 does 950 Gflops (FP32) natively not in the browser. The M1 does 2.6 Tflops (FP32) natively and 900 Gflops in the browser.
- ladyanita22 6y ago
  What difference does it make? WebGPU runs natively.
  - setBoolean 6y ago
    As far as I know WebGPU has a performance overhead, also he is using an experimental implementation. How do you explain the difference between the 2.6 TFlops (FP32) [1] of the M1 and the 950 GFlops (FP32) of the 855 [2]? [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-tested/3 https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-teste... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_processors#Snapdragon_855_and_855+_(2019) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_pr...

by lsb 6y ago

SekstiNi 6y ago

From the article: > Hitting nearly 1TFlops in the browser (50% of peak) is extremely empowering and it's exciting to see such technology available.

ghego1 6y ago

Thanks for pointing this out. This does put things in perspective. While it's true that achieving that in the browser is something, this sounds much less interesting and a lot more like the usual hype.

LockAndLol 6y ago

So much for an "amazing M1". So it's as performant as a chip that was in a phone released a year prior.

float4 6y ago
A passively cooled M1 beats a Ryzen 3900X, an i7, and an i9 in most benchmarks[0]. But if you want to pick this single benchmark so that you can conclude that the M1 is not better than a mobile phone SoC from a year ago, then you do you. [0] https://tech.ssut.me/apple-m1-chip-benchmarks-focused-on-the-real-world-programming/ https://tech.ssut.me/apple-m1-chip-benchmarks-focused-on-the...
- eertami 6y ago
  Some of those tests are realistically testing RAM speed more than CPU power. Yet he has the 3900x configured with only 1600Mhz memory clock compared to 2133Mhz on the M1. The single core performance of these chips is very impressive, especially at such a TDP, but in raw multi-core CPU power it simply does not beat a 3900x. But if you want to pick one set of benchmark tests so that you can conclude that the 3900X from two years ago is not better than an M1, then you do you.
  - float4 6y ago
    > but in raw multi-core CPU power it simply does not beat a 3900x I agree. > if you want to pick one set of benchmark tests so that you can conclude that the 3900X from two years ago is not better than an M1 The thread was clearly about M1 vs mobile phone SoCs. I just gave some benchmarks to show that the M1 is not a mobile phone SoC but can instead compete with very decent laptop/desktop CPUs. The 3900X wasn't the main point. I even own a 5950X myself. > you do you. In all fairness: I shouldn't have used that phrasing.
pwinnski 6y ago
The M1 hits roughly three times what the Snapdragon does outside of the browser. So it's about three times as performant in raw score. Or, as the parent link says, INSIDE the browser, it hits 900 GFlops, which is absolutely amazing.

setBoolean 6y ago

The Snapdragon 855 does 950 Gflops (FP32) natively not in the browser. The M1 does 2.6 Tflops (FP32) natively and 900 Gflops in the browser.

ladyanita22 6y ago
What difference does it make? WebGPU runs natively.
- setBoolean 6y ago
  As far as I know WebGPU has a performance overhead, also he is using an experimental implementation. How do you explain the difference between the 2.6 TFlops (FP32) [1] of the M1 and the 950 GFlops (FP32) of the 855 [2]? [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-tested/3 https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-teste... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_processors#Snapdragon_855_and_855+_(2019) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_pr...