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...it seems to me that non-religious people keep trying to simultaneously claim that the universe is merely a semi-random collection of atoms and energy, AND th
by bh42222 15y ago
...it seems to me that non-religious people keep trying to simultaneously claim that the universe is merely a semi-random collection of atoms and energy, AND that we can find transcendent meaning in it. You can't have it both ways.
Yes, yes I can. As a human I can find meaning in literally anything. By no means is this any more or less silly then walking on water, turning water into wine, etc.
- Apocryphon 15y agoMeaning, perhaps, but transcendent meaning? Maybe only in one's own mind.
- bh42222 15y agoMaybe only in one's own mind. Are you implying transcendent meaning is an objective thing?
- Apocryphon 15y agoI mean that ascribing meaning to have metaphysical, supernatural, transcendental effects that exist outside of one's mind would be counter to an atheist worldview.
- saraid216 15y agoAtheists only have one worldview?
- tkahn6 15y agoThat's not what he said.
- Apocryphon 15y agoI don't mean to paint all atheists with one brush, I'm just trying to explain (one possible) reason for why you can't have it both ways: ...it seems to me that non-religious people keep trying to simultaneously claim that the universe is merely a semi-random collection of atoms and energy, AND that we can find transcendent meaning in it. So I interpreted that as the original non-atheist person meaning transcendental as metaphysical or supernatural in his statement.
- bh42222 15y agoI would agree with that. I personally take "transcendental" to be describing a purely emotional experience. But I agree, for most other people it means super natural.