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> a project in northern Siberia called “Pleistocene Park,” ... Zimov wants to add mammoths to the mix. Having just finished reading Jurassic Park: "Life breaks

by elwell 6y ago

> a project in northern Siberia called “Pleistocene Park,” ... Zimov wants to add mammoths to the mix. Having just finished reading Jurassic Park: "Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way."

Symmetry 6y ago
Hard to be scared of an animal we've already hunted to extinction once back when we were working with spears.
- fogihujy 6y ago
  Humans as a whole obviously has nothing to fear from small groups of mammoths roaming the Siberian tundra. Small groups of people encountering said groups of mammoths in the wild, on the other hand, could quickly end up dead if a bull has a bad day and goes on a rampage. I like the idea of fixing some of the damage our ancestors did. Especially given that it seems to have beneficial effects for the climate, and that giving the mammoths a new chance feels like the right thing to do. Intentions alone don't make things end up like you originally intended, though. There's a LOT of things that need to be taken into account before such a beast can be released into the wild.
  - BurningFrog 6y ago
    The Siberian tundra already has bears, wolves, and the coldest cold known to man. It also has very nearly zero population.
    - fogihujy 6y ago
      Definitely. The mammoths will probably fit right in. That does not mean it will be without noticeable and possibly negative consequences for the few people that do live there though. A rampaging elephant is no joke, regardless of the amount of hair it has, and elephants do seem intelligent enough to be moody on occasion. Who knows how they'll respond to being cloned back into existence and then put in a foreign environment without their ancestors' culture?
smegger001 6y ago
at least in the first one didn't it require active sabotage of multiple systems (power security IT...) by a trusted insider with little to no supervision simultaneous with a freak storm for that to happen though? and as i recall there were few if any redundant systems you would expect along, the whole thing being run by a skeleton staff. also at least based on the movies depiction its obvious no one involved ever studied zoo construction or best practices. a power outage should never cause a zoo exhibit to fail open. a tree should not be were it will could fall and let a animal out. also every pin for anything that you wouldn't allow in a petting zoo should have not just had a electric fence (which should have each had a backup generator) but also a ditch, moat, and shear face far enough back to prevent escape by any animal making a running jump. the whole park was pretty much as a death trap just based on the way it was built. Hammond should have been convicted of criminal negligence.

by elwell 6y ago

Symmetry 6y ago

Hard to be scared of an animal we've already hunted to extinction once back when we were working with spears.

fogihujy 6y ago
Humans as a whole obviously has nothing to fear from small groups of mammoths roaming the Siberian tundra. Small groups of people encountering said groups of mammoths in the wild, on the other hand, could quickly end up dead if a bull has a bad day and goes on a rampage. I like the idea of fixing some of the damage our ancestors did. Especially given that it seems to have beneficial effects for the climate, and that giving the mammoths a new chance feels like the right thing to do. Intentions alone don't make things end up like you originally intended, though. There's a LOT of things that need to be taken into account before such a beast can be released into the wild.
- BurningFrog 6y ago
  The Siberian tundra already has bears, wolves, and the coldest cold known to man. It also has very nearly zero population.
  - fogihujy 6y ago
    Definitely. The mammoths will probably fit right in. That does not mean it will be without noticeable and possibly negative consequences for the few people that do live there though. A rampaging elephant is no joke, regardless of the amount of hair it has, and elephants do seem intelligent enough to be moody on occasion. Who knows how they'll respond to being cloned back into existence and then put in a foreign environment without their ancestors' culture?

smegger001 6y ago

at least in the first one didn't it require active sabotage of multiple systems (power security IT...) by a trusted insider with little to no supervision simultaneous with a freak storm for that to happen though? and as i recall there were few if any redundant systems you would expect along, the whole thing being run by a skeleton staff. also at least based on the movies depiction its obvious no one involved ever studied zoo construction or best practices. a power outage should never cause a zoo exhibit to fail open. a tree should not be were it will could fall and let a animal out. also every pin for anything that you wouldn't allow in a petting zoo should have not just had a electric fence (which should have each had a backup generator) but also a ditch, moat, and shear face far enough back to prevent escape by any animal making a running jump. the whole park was pretty much as a death trap just based on the way it was built. Hammond should have been convicted of criminal negligence.