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> That being said, if you're very, very poor it's not terrible to be a US citizen. ..then... > You would likely work multiple jobs if you're dirt poor. > You

> That being said, if you're very, very poor it's not terrible to be a US citizen. ..then... > You would likely work multiple jobs if you're dirt poor. > You likely wouldn't have vacation if you're dirt poor. I guess that's "not terrible" in your book, compared to starving in the streets? > Community college is free via a Pell grant. No it is not free. [1] The maximum a pell grant can be is ~$5700. Community college costs are skyrocketing and Pell grants do not cover the entire cost. > Housing is expensive, but you will qualify for Section 8 (welfare) and will eventually get housing for free No it is not free. It is a fixed subsidy, not 100% costs. [2] It is not required that landlords accept section 8 vouchers. [3] Many do not, hence homelessness ensues, but it is VERY helpful. > It's unlikely you will get a representative set of answers form this site, which skews towards what you might call "upper-class" individuals. Hello irony! [1] https://www2.ed.gov/programs/fpg/index.html https://www2.ed.gov/programs/fpg/index.html [2] https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/what-causes-homelessness/housing/ https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/what-cau... [3] https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-section-8-landlords-20190329-story.html https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-section-8-landlords-2...

jjeaff 6y ago
The pell grant will more than cover many community college options. There are usually also state programs to help pay for state and community colleges. This does not reduce what you can get from the pell grant. Housing is very affordable in most of the US. Just not in major cities. In my smallish college town, 100k population, you can get a 3 bed 2 bath, 1200 sqft home for around $120k.
- SavantIdiot 6y ago
  > The pell grant will more than cover many community college options. Where "many" is about 10% based on this link. [1] Four states have an average cost under the maximum pell grant. Most states have fewer than 5 colleges that meet that requirement. So tack on moving expenses and housing to tuition to go find an affordable community college. I'm sure paying rent is cheap in those towns, and would be covered by the Pell grant, assuming you qualified for the full $5750. > Housing is very affordable in most of the US. Just not in major cities. In my smallish college town, 100k population, you can get a 3 bed 2 bath, 1200 sqft home for around $120k. Sure, if you don't mind working at a gas station or supermarket with your fancy new college degree. But there are "many" dying rural towns that will pay you to move there, so there's that. [2] Bottom line: no one in their right mind can argue that being poor isn't really that terrible as OP did. The fact that you're trying to, is gross. [1] https://www.communitycollegereview.com/avg-tuition-stats/national-data https://www.communitycollegereview.com/avg-tuition-stats/nat... [2] https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/make-money/places-that-will-pay-you-to-move-there/ https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/make-money/places-that-will-...
  - jjeaff 6y ago
    I didn't say being poor isn't that terrible. I'merely pointing out the fact, that you verified, that there are hundreds of colleges in america that you can attend with a pell grant only. Of course, there are also other non-loan options for financial aid at many universities. And no, everyone there doesn't work at gas stations or supermarkets.
endisneigh 6y ago
I’m not sure what you’re going on about: 1. The average community college can cost and usually does cost less than the full pell grant. 2. Discrimination against voucher recipients does exist, but the fact remains section 8 is generally enough to cover all of your housing in most places in the USA. I believe it is better to be in the 5th percentile in the USA than most places. Feel free to show a counter example if you want.

jjeaff 6y ago

The pell grant will more than cover many community college options. There are usually also state programs to help pay for state and community colleges. This does not reduce what you can get from the pell grant. Housing is very affordable in most of the US. Just not in major cities. In my smallish college town, 100k population, you can get a 3 bed 2 bath, 1200 sqft home for around $120k.

SavantIdiot 6y ago
> The pell grant will more than cover many community college options. Where "many" is about 10% based on this link. [1] Four states have an average cost under the maximum pell grant. Most states have fewer than 5 colleges that meet that requirement. So tack on moving expenses and housing to tuition to go find an affordable community college. I'm sure paying rent is cheap in those towns, and would be covered by the Pell grant, assuming you qualified for the full $5750. > Housing is very affordable in most of the US. Just not in major cities. In my smallish college town, 100k population, you can get a 3 bed 2 bath, 1200 sqft home for around $120k. Sure, if you don't mind working at a gas station or supermarket with your fancy new college degree. But there are "many" dying rural towns that will pay you to move there, so there's that. [2] Bottom line: no one in their right mind can argue that being poor isn't really that terrible as OP did. The fact that you're trying to, is gross. [1] https://www.communitycollegereview.com/avg-tuition-stats/national-data https://www.communitycollegereview.com/avg-tuition-stats/nat... [2] https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/make-money/places-that-will-pay-you-to-move-there/ https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/make-money/places-that-will-...
- jjeaff 6y ago
  I didn't say being poor isn't that terrible. I'merely pointing out the fact, that you verified, that there are hundreds of colleges in america that you can attend with a pell grant only. Of course, there are also other non-loan options for financial aid at many universities. And no, everyone there doesn't work at gas stations or supermarkets.

endisneigh 6y ago

I’m not sure what you’re going on about: 1. The average community college can cost and usually does cost less than the full pell grant. 2. Discrimination against voucher recipients does exist, but the fact remains section 8 is generally enough to cover all of your housing in most places in the USA. I believe it is better to be in the 5th percentile in the USA than most places. Feel free to show a counter example if you want.