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> Google Pay switched to Flutter a few months ago for their flagship mobile app, and they already achieved major gains in productivity and quality. I don't kno

by beaner 6y ago

> Google Pay switched to Flutter a few months ago for their flagship mobile app, and they already achieved major gains in productivity and quality. I don't know how they can claim this. The new Google Pay on Android was noticeably laggier the moment it was released. It continues to be so, and I still hate using it. Now I know the cause.

dstaley 6y ago
As long as the old Google Pay app still does NFC payments, I'll keep using it. I was also pretty salty that the new Google Pay app was marked as "early release" so you couldn't leave a review on the Google Play Store. That's fixed now though.
jerrycruncher 6y ago
They are likely referring to developer productivity and perceived code quality, not user satisfaction.
ignoramous 6y ago
I don't auto-update any Google app anymore. The amount of bloat keeps piling up with each new update. Google's Product Managers, as great as they are, need to seriously slowdown a bit.
eseidelGoogle 6y ago
[Flutter Eng. Dir here] The initial GPay Flutter release definitely had some performance rough spots. We've learned a lot from working with that team since release and have made resulting changes in both Flutter and the app code. GPay hasn't released since December last I checked, but I expect the next release should perform better on both iOS and Android and we will be continuing to work with them closely over the coming months.
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  How is this still such a problem in the modern era where major software is released that becomes unusably slow on multi-core cutting edge phones?
  - f430 6y ago
    What are you talking about Flutter runs butter smooth on most smartphones at 60fps, far better than what react-native and other half assed solutions on the market. go ahead and take time to downvote my comments. do you boo
  - andrekandre 6y ago
    just an assumption, but probably because even though it comes from the same company, even on android flutter is not a first-class citizen...? iow, maybe they dont have access to all the internal implementations that give the native toolkit higher performance... can anyone clarify that?
    - f430 6y ago
      Flutter is way more closer to native than react will ever be
- f430 6y ago
  I just wanted to commend you guys on Flutter. I've put off Android/React Native for almost a decade because of how clunky it was and I feel like Flutter finally gets the pieces right. It is refreshing to be able to start development quickly without worrying about tooling (react-native), CI, etc. Also I feel like Dart is perfect. It's a joy to use, I feel like this is the future. It's not es6 and it's not Java either.
underwater 6y ago
I had wondered what had happened to this app to make it so slow. It takes around 10 seconds to get past the loading screen and show me anything useful on an S9. Those seconds are excruciating when I'm at a checkout trying to actually use the app, with a large line behind me and a checkout person staring at me.

by beaner 6y ago

dstaley 6y ago

As long as the old Google Pay app still does NFC payments, I'll keep using it. I was also pretty salty that the new Google Pay app was marked as "early release" so you couldn't leave a review on the Google Play Store. That's fixed now though.

jerrycruncher 6y ago

They are likely referring to developer productivity and perceived code quality, not user satisfaction.

ignoramous 6y ago

I don't auto-update any Google app anymore. The amount of bloat keeps piling up with each new update. Google's Product Managers, as great as they are, need to seriously slowdown a bit.

eseidelGoogle 6y ago

[Flutter Eng. Dir here] The initial GPay Flutter release definitely had some performance rough spots. We've learned a lot from working with that team since release and have made resulting changes in both Flutter and the app code. GPay hasn't released since December last I checked, but I expect the next release should perform better on both iOS and Android and we will be continuing to work with them closely over the coming months.

CyberDildonics 6y ago
How is this still such a problem in the modern era where major software is released that becomes unusably slow on multi-core cutting edge phones?
- f430 6y ago
  What are you talking about Flutter runs butter smooth on most smartphones at 60fps, far better than what react-native and other half assed solutions on the market. go ahead and take time to downvote my comments. do you boo
- andrekandre 6y ago
  just an assumption, but probably because even though it comes from the same company, even on android flutter is not a first-class citizen...? iow, maybe they dont have access to all the internal implementations that give the native toolkit higher performance... can anyone clarify that?
  - f430 6y ago
    Flutter is way more closer to native than react will ever be
f430 6y ago
I just wanted to commend you guys on Flutter. I've put off Android/React Native for almost a decade because of how clunky it was and I feel like Flutter finally gets the pieces right. It is refreshing to be able to start development quickly without worrying about tooling (react-native), CI, etc. Also I feel like Dart is perfect. It's a joy to use, I feel like this is the future. It's not es6 and it's not Java either.

underwater 6y ago

I had wondered what had happened to this app to make it so slow. It takes around 10 seconds to get past the loading screen and show me anything useful on an S9. Those seconds are excruciating when I'm at a checkout trying to actually use the app, with a large line behind me and a checkout person staring at me.