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Does this mean all desktop integrations have now migrated from alpha and are available on stable releases? The post isn't 100% clear on this. I tried out Flut

Does this mean all desktop integrations have now migrated from alpha and are available on stable releases? The post isn't 100% clear on this. I tried out Flutter a while ago, and it's really promising as the only really viable alternative to the JS/browser stack for cross platform GUIs. Dart is not terribly inspiring and lacks the appeal of other new languages like Kotlin or Swift, but it's fine; as in: boring/easy to pick up and good enough for frontend, although somewhat sluggish. ps: I personally don't see the design of Flutter Web as viable for production apps, so if you need Browser support, a JS stack will remain the only solution, at least for a few years.

csells 6y ago
Flutter 2 contains desktop support at the beta level on both the beta channel and the stable channel behind a config flag.
fakedang 6y ago
Doubt it. More likely this is Google half-assing something else. I doubt Flutter 2 is worth it, since they were just beginning expanding the Flutter team 2 weeks back
serial_dev 6y ago
I'm a developer who uses Flutter and the thing I love the most about Flutter is the Dart language. It's such an easy language to pick up, and if you know TypeScript/Java/JavaScript, it feels immediately "home", you just know how to do things. Regarding Swift and Kotlin, yes, they have more features, but that makes those languages also harder to learn and more difficult to master. I think Go demonstrated that more simplicity is also important and more features does not automatically mean you'll be more productive (that's not to say that Swift or Kotlin is bad, I just want to express that Dart feels great). Extensions, null-safety are already here, and data classes are being worked on, so I think the Dart teams listens to the feedback from the community and prioritizes well.
stephenhuey 6y ago
Seems like you've been around long enough to have read In Search of Stupidity. Lots of great stories in there, including one about a super famous tech person who once said the browser is too slow and will not ever be a viable place for apps. :)
- oblio 6y ago
  A bit later that famous dude literally wrote: "whoever can make HTML sing will win the API wars". About 5 years before people understood what he meant.
- the_duke 6y ago
  Never heard of it, but it does sound like a good read!

csells 6y ago

Flutter 2 contains desktop support at the beta level on both the beta channel and the stable channel behind a config flag.

fakedang 6y ago

Doubt it. More likely this is Google half-assing something else. I doubt Flutter 2 is worth it, since they were just beginning expanding the Flutter team 2 weeks back

serial_dev 6y ago

I'm a developer who uses Flutter and the thing I love the most about Flutter is the Dart language. It's such an easy language to pick up, and if you know TypeScript/Java/JavaScript, it feels immediately "home", you just know how to do things. Regarding Swift and Kotlin, yes, they have more features, but that makes those languages also harder to learn and more difficult to master. I think Go demonstrated that more simplicity is also important and more features does not automatically mean you'll be more productive (that's not to say that Swift or Kotlin is bad, I just want to express that Dart feels great). Extensions, null-safety are already here, and data classes are being worked on, so I think the Dart teams listens to the feedback from the community and prioritizes well.

stephenhuey 6y ago

Seems like you've been around long enough to have read In Search of Stupidity. Lots of great stories in there, including one about a super famous tech person who once said the browser is too slow and will not ever be a viable place for apps. :)

oblio 6y ago
A bit later that famous dude literally wrote: "whoever can make HTML sing will win the API wars". About 5 years before people understood what he meant.
the_duke 6y ago
Never heard of it, but it does sound like a good read!