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Heh. For this reason I avoid HN threads having to do with gender and sex. There's a florid streak of redpill-ism that converges on these threads. Last week s

Heh. For this reason I avoid HN threads having to do with gender and sex. There's a florid streak of redpill-ism that converges on these threads. Last week someone used "carousel" unironically. In this thread, "hypergamy". My bingo card is waiting for "Chad". Run away, quick!

viklove 6y ago
Yes, when you encounter ideas that make you uncomfortable it's important to shut your eyes, plug your ears, and run away!
- devchix 6y ago
  Yes. Because every idea that makes me uncomfortable is worth my time exploring. /s Presumptive of you to think I haven't, though. Red pill ideology is garbage.
  - TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
    I think the conflict here is from you associating the discussion of hypergamy and the effect of social media on dating with a red-pill ideology. Red-pillers and incels are on an extreme end of the spectrum, but they are occurring in reaction to something real. That real change shouldn't be flippantly dismissed.
    - devchix 6y ago
      "hypergamy" is foundational to red pill and well-understood within the core beliefs. One can discuss the effect of social media on dating outside the light cone of red pill. It's a reaction to something, like white nationalism is a reaction to something, but that something is ill-defined and not necessarily real for anyone else except the person in which it evokes the response. Regardless, I value HN and don't want to discuss red pill. I regret even mentioning it. I withdraw and leave you the field.
      - TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
        > that something is ill-defined and not necessarily real for anyone else except the person in which it evokes the response. Read the comments in this thread. This is affecting the majority of people trying to date right now. The existence of zealots arising from an issue doesn't mean the issue isn't real or worth trying to fix.
toomuchredbull 6y ago
Obviously red pill can be taken too far, but I haven't been convinced that the basic ideology of it is wrong in any meaningful way. Have you ever seen it debunked? To me this is evidence of it. I'm thankfully married but it does seem worrisome out there.

viklove 6y ago

Yes, when you encounter ideas that make you uncomfortable it's important to shut your eyes, plug your ears, and run away!

devchix 6y ago
Yes. Because every idea that makes me uncomfortable is worth my time exploring. /s Presumptive of you to think I haven't, though. Red pill ideology is garbage.
- TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
  I think the conflict here is from you associating the discussion of hypergamy and the effect of social media on dating with a red-pill ideology. Red-pillers and incels are on an extreme end of the spectrum, but they are occurring in reaction to something real. That real change shouldn't be flippantly dismissed.
  - devchix 6y ago
    "hypergamy" is foundational to red pill and well-understood within the core beliefs. One can discuss the effect of social media on dating outside the light cone of red pill. It's a reaction to something, like white nationalism is a reaction to something, but that something is ill-defined and not necessarily real for anyone else except the person in which it evokes the response. Regardless, I value HN and don't want to discuss red pill. I regret even mentioning it. I withdraw and leave you the field.
    - TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
      > that something is ill-defined and not necessarily real for anyone else except the person in which it evokes the response. Read the comments in this thread. This is affecting the majority of people trying to date right now. The existence of zealots arising from an issue doesn't mean the issue isn't real or worth trying to fix.

toomuchredbull 6y ago

Obviously red pill can be taken too far, but I haven't been convinced that the basic ideology of it is wrong in any meaningful way. Have you ever seen it debunked? To me this is evidence of it. I'm thankfully married but it does seem worrisome out there.