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My theory, that no one wants to talk about, is that dating apps have sped up hypergamy. (Note: talking statistically on a population level..this is not every pe

My theory, that no one wants to talk about, is that dating apps have sped up hypergamy. (Note: talking statistically on a population level..this is not every person) Before an average guy used to be able to get a date without a problem, but now the bar is set much higher for a male, due to quick and easy access for women to dates via technology. (This in reverse applies to men less so because men are polygamous not hypergamous by nature and by definition are the pursuers and have less standards.). So there's less casual sex as a whole because a small group of people are having more casual sex. This is evidenced by stats from the above article and by numerous studies on dating sites that shows a small pool of men having much more success with women. Also, anecdotally as an admittedly non Brad Pitt average guy.. if you've ever compared your dating apps to an average woman friend...it's insane the contrast. Much like the economy that is also bifurcating and has a shrinking middle class... this reflected on the dating market as well.

viklove 6y ago
Lots of people have talked about these issues, but society's response has been to drive those people away and label them "misogynists" for observing what has happened in the sexual marketplace. A lot of the ideas you talk about are openly discussed in Red Pill/Incel communities, and you know how much everyone hates those groups. Red Pill is the group of men who understand hypergamy and actively try to elevate themselves to be the "highest value" males so they can benefit from it. Incels are the group of men who have tried to honestly attract members of the other sex, but continuous failure has lead them to a state of despair to the point where they withdraw completely and instead focus on things that actually make them happy like video games. But even by mentioning those two groups, this comment is likely to get downvoted and I'm likely to be labeled as a misogynist for considering that they might be right about some things.
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  Copernicus was labelled a heretic for saying the Earth revolved around the sun. But science proved him right. Science seems to make people uncomfortable because it lifts the delusion that humans are way further from animals than we actually are. Humans are formed in the image of GOD! And the universe revolves around us! Not only does science show that the solar system does not revolve around humans, but also shows that men and women have primitive instincts on the dating market to maximize their genetic success...just like animals. Polygyny, or the harem strategy, is the most successful mating strategy throughout all the mammalian class. One strong male with a group of females. And this pattern is seen repeated throughout many species of mammals. The harsh truth is that as a male mammal, this is the framework you have to work in. Not being blessed with family resources, or natural good looks, or natural talent, or the ability to make a a baby, makes one disposable by default and having to fight for reproductive success. There's exceptions to the rule but statistically it seems to be sound. I don't know why people deny this. They simply have to compare the average guys Tinder to the average girls Tinder to see this mating selection in action. Women and movie stars can literally get casual sex at the push of a button. People like to delude themselves that theyre better people than they really are I guess. Then they cheat on their spouse with a swimsuit model or a lawyer.
  - imbnwa 6y ago
    How much an ape species practices harems is inversely proportional to male testicle size. Gorillas have tiny testicles, Chimps and Bonobos the biggest, and humans in between.
    - nickthemagicman 6y ago
      Gorillas and Chimps have harems. Is what you're saying accurate? The harem strategy is the most successful reproductive strategy throughout all of the MAMMALS not just the apes.
      - imbnwa 6y ago
        The strategy is dominant, but amongst apes, its just that, dominant. Gorilla paternity testing reveals this lack of exclusivity, but the theory is that male testicle size amongst ape species tracks how exclusive females are. Promiscuity is rampant, its a question to what degree.
        nickthemagicman 6y ago
        It looks like males with larger testicles kill their babies more often so females became more promiscuous to confuse the males. Interesting fact! https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/primate-testicle-size-determines-sexual-norms-say-researchers https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/primate-testicle-size-dete... Everything from elephant seals, to fruit bats, to gorillas, form harems. Monogomy seems the rarest of all bi-gender mating strategys.

viklove 6y ago

Lots of people have talked about these issues, but society's response has been to drive those people away and label them "misogynists" for observing what has happened in the sexual marketplace. A lot of the ideas you talk about are openly discussed in Red Pill/Incel communities, and you know how much everyone hates those groups. Red Pill is the group of men who understand hypergamy and actively try to elevate themselves to be the "highest value" males so they can benefit from it. Incels are the group of men who have tried to honestly attract members of the other sex, but continuous failure has lead them to a state of despair to the point where they withdraw completely and instead focus on things that actually make them happy like video games. But even by mentioning those two groups, this comment is likely to get downvoted and I'm likely to be labeled as a misogynist for considering that they might be right about some things.

nickthemagicman 6y ago
Copernicus was labelled a heretic for saying the Earth revolved around the sun. But science proved him right. Science seems to make people uncomfortable because it lifts the delusion that humans are way further from animals than we actually are. Humans are formed in the image of GOD! And the universe revolves around us! Not only does science show that the solar system does not revolve around humans, but also shows that men and women have primitive instincts on the dating market to maximize their genetic success...just like animals. Polygyny, or the harem strategy, is the most successful mating strategy throughout all the mammalian class. One strong male with a group of females. And this pattern is seen repeated throughout many species of mammals. The harsh truth is that as a male mammal, this is the framework you have to work in. Not being blessed with family resources, or natural good looks, or natural talent, or the ability to make a a baby, makes one disposable by default and having to fight for reproductive success. There's exceptions to the rule but statistically it seems to be sound. I don't know why people deny this. They simply have to compare the average guys Tinder to the average girls Tinder to see this mating selection in action. Women and movie stars can literally get casual sex at the push of a button. People like to delude themselves that theyre better people than they really are I guess. Then they cheat on their spouse with a swimsuit model or a lawyer.
- imbnwa 6y ago
  How much an ape species practices harems is inversely proportional to male testicle size. Gorillas have tiny testicles, Chimps and Bonobos the biggest, and humans in between.
  - nickthemagicman 6y ago
    Gorillas and Chimps have harems. Is what you're saying accurate? The harem strategy is the most successful reproductive strategy throughout all of the MAMMALS not just the apes.
    - imbnwa 6y ago
      The strategy is dominant, but amongst apes, its just that, dominant. Gorilla paternity testing reveals this lack of exclusivity, but the theory is that male testicle size amongst ape species tracks how exclusive females are. Promiscuity is rampant, its a question to what degree.
      - nickthemagicman 6y ago
        It looks like males with larger testicles kill their babies more often so females became more promiscuous to confuse the males. Interesting fact! https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/primate-testicle-size-determines-sexual-norms-say-researchers https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/primate-testicle-size-dete... Everything from elephant seals, to fruit bats, to gorillas, form harems. Monogomy seems the rarest of all bi-gender mating strategys.