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Who knows. May be that's because Norway has a higher average IQ [1]. May be that's because Norway has a lower cultural diversity index [2]. May be cold climate

Who knows. May be that's because Norway has a higher average IQ [1]. May be that's because Norway has a lower cultural diversity index [2]. May be cold climate is the factor: those who didn't work froze to death way before industrial era. [1] https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_et...

bbddg 6y ago
Okay so now it doesn't have to do with unions but with IQ and "cultural diversity"? Why is the US so rich if it has so much cultural diversity unlike Norway then?
- AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
  Well... Another possible reason is that there are unions and then there are unions. The same way as bringing democracy to Libya does not magically make it prosperous [1]. https://www.statista.com/statistics/455600/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-libya/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/455600/gross-domestic-pr...
  - bbddg 6y ago
    So to bring this back to the topic at hand you think that the Amazon workers Union drive is on the "military intervention in Libya" end of the spectrum... For some reason?
kar5pt 6y ago
Or the connection between the US having low unionization rates and a high gdp per capita could be a coincidence? You can't only associate correlation and causation when it's convenient.
spaetzleesser 6y ago
You are basically hinting that low unionization made the US rich but Norway got rich despite high unionization because they have higher IQ or it’s cold there. I would call that cherry picking.
- nerbert 6y ago
  Maybe there's a positive correlation between high IQ and unionization though ;)
- AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
  I'm saying that may be without unions Norway would be even richer? It's kinda similar to "my grandpa was smoking two packs a day and lived till 102".
  - spaetzleesser 6y ago
    Maybe with more unions the US would be richer? Maybe it's not the cold weather that makes Norway rich...
random314 6y ago
Wow, so many racist tropes in one sentences. For those who didn't bother to click on his references. Norway IQ - 99. US IQ - 98. Also, nice dog whistle with the "lower cultural diversity index".
- bananabiscuit 6y ago
  Is it really impossible to believe that a homogeneous culture might have some benefits to a smoothly functioning and cohesive society?
  - random314 6y ago
    Is it really impossible to believe that a dog whistle culture might pose some danger to a smoothly functioning and cohesive society?
    - bananabiscuit 6y ago
      I’m no dog whistler. I am very clearly and unabashedly making the assertion that there probably are benefits to having homogeneous culture. If you have any arguments against that statement itself, please make them instead of attacking my character. It’s pretty anti-intellectual to shut down some hypothesis just because you don’t want it to be true. Please also note two things that I am NOT saying: I am not stating that there are no benefits to a heterogenous culture, and I am also not saying that one type of culture is necessarily better than the other in all respects.
      - random314 6y ago
        Easy man. I just proposed a hypothesis just like you did. Why are you fuming? If you have any arguments against that statement itself, please make them instead of attacking my character. It’s pretty anti-intellectual to shut down some hypothesis just because you don’t want it to be true.
        bananabiscuit 6y ago
eli_gottlieb 6y ago
No, racist pseudoscience is not an important cause of Norway's GDP/capita numbers. Flagged.
- AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
  Where in my post did I mention race? Or "racist pseudoscience" is a newspeak for "I don't like what you're saying, but I cannot think of any reasonable objection"?
  - eli_gottlieb 6y ago
    >May be that's because Norway has a higher average IQ [1]. May be that's because Norway has a lower cultural diversity index [2]. May be cold climate is the factor: those who didn't work froze to death way before industrial era. Here, the bit where you said that cold climate resulted in Norwegians have genetically higher intelligence than other countries.

bbddg 6y ago

Okay so now it doesn't have to do with unions but with IQ and "cultural diversity"? Why is the US so rich if it has so much cultural diversity unlike Norway then?

AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
Well... Another possible reason is that there are unions and then there are unions. The same way as bringing democracy to Libya does not magically make it prosperous [1]. https://www.statista.com/statistics/455600/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-libya/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/455600/gross-domestic-pr...
- bbddg 6y ago
  So to bring this back to the topic at hand you think that the Amazon workers Union drive is on the "military intervention in Libya" end of the spectrum... For some reason?

kar5pt 6y ago

Or the connection between the US having low unionization rates and a high gdp per capita could be a coincidence? You can't only associate correlation and causation when it's convenient.

spaetzleesser 6y ago

You are basically hinting that low unionization made the US rich but Norway got rich despite high unionization because they have higher IQ or it’s cold there. I would call that cherry picking.

nerbert 6y ago
Maybe there's a positive correlation between high IQ and unionization though ;)
AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
I'm saying that may be without unions Norway would be even richer? It's kinda similar to "my grandpa was smoking two packs a day and lived till 102".
- spaetzleesser 6y ago
  Maybe with more unions the US would be richer? Maybe it's not the cold weather that makes Norway rich...

random314 6y ago

Wow, so many racist tropes in one sentences. For those who didn't bother to click on his references. Norway IQ - 99. US IQ - 98. Also, nice dog whistle with the "lower cultural diversity index".

bananabiscuit 6y ago
Is it really impossible to believe that a homogeneous culture might have some benefits to a smoothly functioning and cohesive society?
- random314 6y ago
  Is it really impossible to believe that a dog whistle culture might pose some danger to a smoothly functioning and cohesive society?
  - bananabiscuit 6y ago
    I’m no dog whistler. I am very clearly and unabashedly making the assertion that there probably are benefits to having homogeneous culture. If you have any arguments against that statement itself, please make them instead of attacking my character. It’s pretty anti-intellectual to shut down some hypothesis just because you don’t want it to be true. Please also note two things that I am NOT saying: I am not stating that there are no benefits to a heterogenous culture, and I am also not saying that one type of culture is necessarily better than the other in all respects.
    - random314 6y ago
      Easy man. I just proposed a hypothesis just like you did. Why are you fuming? If you have any arguments against that statement itself, please make them instead of attacking my character. It’s pretty anti-intellectual to shut down some hypothesis just because you don’t want it to be true.
      - bananabiscuit 6y ago

eli_gottlieb 6y ago

No, racist pseudoscience is not an important cause of Norway's GDP/capita numbers. Flagged.

AlexTWithBeard 6y ago
Where in my post did I mention race? Or "racist pseudoscience" is a newspeak for "I don't like what you're saying, but I cannot think of any reasonable objection"?
- eli_gottlieb 6y ago
  >May be that's because Norway has a higher average IQ [1]. May be that's because Norway has a lower cultural diversity index [2]. May be cold climate is the factor: those who didn't work froze to death way before industrial era. Here, the bit where you said that cold climate resulted in Norwegians have genetically higher intelligence than other countries.