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Linus Torvalds: ARM has a lot to learn from the PC : "I think ARM is a very promising platform," he said. "At the same time, the ARM community has never had t
by apichat 6y ago
Linus Torvalds: ARM has a lot to learn from the PC :
"I think ARM is a very promising platform," he said. "At the same time, the ARM community has never had the notion of a standard platform. ARM never had the PC."
https://www.networkworld.com/article/2220438/linus-torvalds--arm-has-a-lot-to-learn-from-the-pc.html https://www.networkworld.com/article/2220438/linus-torvalds-...
- uncledave 6y agoWe did actually but Acorn canned it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_(computer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_(computer)
- guerrilla 6y agoThat's not what he means by PC. He means an open standard that anyone can build against with comparability between products.
- uncledave 6y agoThat’s exactly what it was. Two other vendors were going to launch as well.
- guywhocodes 6y agoVery interesting, the reason for cancelling seems to largely hold true today.
- STRML 6y agoThe Phoebe's launch OS (RISC OS 4) was codenamed "Ursula". Unfortunately, shortly into its development, the Phoebe went on an (indefinite) break.
- rbanffy 6y agoIn 1998, it would be an excellent opportunity to use Linux. At the time, I was playing with Apple's MkLinux on PowerMacs.
- chung1905 6y agoI'm curious, is there any reason that ARM doesn't have a standard platform? Or they are working on that?
- my123 6y agoIt does, and it's called Arm SystemReady. UEFI + ACPI is required on Arm if you want to boot Windows or RHEL/CentOS, which do not even try to boot on non-standardised 64-bit Arm systems.
- Vogtinator 6y agoSame for SLES/openSUSE, except for some platforms (RPi) where they use u-boot to provide EFI.
- coldtea 6y agoThey are different vendors, working on different products...
- mhd 6y agoNothing else ever had the PC. And IBM wasn't too happy that it happened to them, either.
- TheRealDunkirk 6y agoIt definitely makes Apple's decision to never allow generics seem wise in retrospect.
- mhd 6y agoIn a way, they themselves started becoming a manufacturer of "IBM compatibles", they just locked their OS to them. A Jobs-less alternate Apple universe might've been interesting though. He both canned the licensed Apple clones and made OpenStep into the next major MacOS revision. If Copland would've been OS 8 or BeOS as OS X, there could be viable clones, and thus maybe enough critical mass to keep PowerPC alive a bit longer.
- mbreese 6y agoBut they did at one point in the late 90’s. I wouldn’t say that was the only reason why they nearly went bankrupt, but it certainly didn’t help.
- TheRealDunkirk 6y agoYeah, "never" was the wrong word. I forgot about that.