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> Should they be forced to find a new flat way outside the city because the rent triples over the course of a few years so young tech workers relocating from Lo
by porb121 6y ago
> Should they be forced to find a new flat way outside the city because the rent triples over the course of a few years so young tech workers relocating from London can have a place in the cool part of town?
yes
why should they get to stay in berlin and have their housing subsidized?
- kelnos 6y agoBecause civilization requires compassion, empathy, and meeting people's basic needs in a stable manner.
- porb121 6y agoi don't find it particularly compassionate or empathetic to subsidize someone's apartment just because they were living in it when a rent control bill was passed. yes, that person has a claim to some kind of housing, but why should they have a claim to the exact same kind of housing in perpetuity?
- blub 6y agoSupporting pushing them out while not offering any solution besides saying they have "a claim to some kind of housing" is essentially supporting throwing them out on the street in their 70s period.
- porb121 6y agothat's not what i said. we should have good housing policies, but rent control is a bad housing policy.
- blub 6y agoBecause they lived there half if not all their lives and want to continue to live there. It's as easy as that and it's a legitimate reason. In the end, the Senate of Berlin is looking out at least in theory for the people of Berlin, not nomad developers or other people looking to move there.
- porb121 6y agobeing enabled to continue doing something (at the cost of others!) just because you want to keep doing it is not a particularly legitimate reason also, if people move to Berlin, they also become the people of Berlin.
- skohan 6y ago> being enabled to continue doing something (at the cost of others!) just because you want to keep doing it is not a particularly legitimate reason We are not talking about getting tickets to an NBA playoff game, we are talking about housing. If someone has been living in a city for their entire life, it's not reasonable to expect that due to "market forces" they should have to pick up their entire life and move to an unfamiliar place because they can't continue to compete in the market into their golden years.
- llampx 6y agoEvery other aspect of living is also subject to inflation. The berlin government is a hero for the poor, this is all it is. The Mietendeckel is not a good thing for a young person or a family but rather for old people and those who have been living in the city for a long time. It creates a class of haves.
- HotHotLava 6y agoThe Berlin government considers it a legitimate reason, and since they get to make the rules that's all that matters in this case. If the people of Berlin would disagree, it's up to them to elect a new government with different views on the topic. "I want to move to Berlin", on the other hand, is not a particularly legitimate reason to kick out a current resident for a newcomer.
- statstutor 6y agoCompeting for housing exclusively on grounds of wealth also doesn't benefit young workers?
- llampx 6y agoAside from on HN, most wealth is owned by the old, not the young.