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I wish companies were not able to label and sell these textured vegetable proteins as "meat". They are great products but they are not meat and as scale increas

I wish companies were not able to label and sell these textured vegetable proteins as "meat". They are great products but they are not meat and as scale increases and they become less expensive than meat there will be strong commercial profit motives to replace real meat with "* meat" for monetary reasons. I'd strongly prefer for increased funding to isolated tissue culture methods. That way we could have real meat without the environmental or ethical issues.

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ausbah 6y ago
there was a small push by the meat lobby to do exactly that a couple years ago [1] I think it's a silly form of regulation. there are plenty of non-milk milk products, or "fruit flavor" things that don't have any fruit https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/technology/meat-veggie-burgers-lab-produced.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/technology/meat-veggie-bu...
- p1necone 6y ago
  I think it's very silly. I as a consumer would like to buy a substitute for cows milk that is not animal based. Being forced to call it "almond juice" or something is just making my life harder (and not making anyone elses life easier). Nobody is going to think that "almond milk" is actually the same as cows milk and accidentally buy it instead of the dairy product, so what's the problem? (Also, almond and soy milk are not new products, they've been consumed for hundreds of years in Europe and Asia respectively)
- theNJR 6y ago
  There were FDA rulings around the use of the word "milk". I think it went to court, and I don't recall the final ruling.
p1necone 6y ago
I've never seen plant based meat labelled in a way that could trick a reasonable person into thinking it was animal meat. I don't see what you'd gain from not allowing the word "meat" to be used - it's very clearly a product that's trying to imitate various kinds of animal meat, and I want that communicated to me efficiently.
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- superkuh 6y ago
  That's because it's more expensive than meat. Once it becomes less expensive it will be used in prepared foods without explicit or with misleading (* meat) small labels.

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ausbah 6y ago

there was a small push by the meat lobby to do exactly that a couple years ago [1] I think it's a silly form of regulation. there are plenty of non-milk milk products, or "fruit flavor" things that don't have any fruit https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/technology/meat-veggie-burgers-lab-produced.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/technology/meat-veggie-bu...

p1necone 6y ago
I think it's very silly. I as a consumer would like to buy a substitute for cows milk that is not animal based. Being forced to call it "almond juice" or something is just making my life harder (and not making anyone elses life easier). Nobody is going to think that "almond milk" is actually the same as cows milk and accidentally buy it instead of the dairy product, so what's the problem? (Also, almond and soy milk are not new products, they've been consumed for hundreds of years in Europe and Asia respectively)
theNJR 6y ago
There were FDA rulings around the use of the word "milk". I think it went to court, and I don't recall the final ruling.

p1necone 6y ago

I've never seen plant based meat labelled in a way that could trick a reasonable person into thinking it was animal meat. I don't see what you'd gain from not allowing the word "meat" to be used - it's very clearly a product that's trying to imitate various kinds of animal meat, and I want that communicated to me efficiently.

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superkuh 6y ago
That's because it's more expensive than meat. Once it becomes less expensive it will be used in prepared foods without explicit or with misleading (* meat) small labels.