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GP is saying that there is market for preflashed custom device even if it's 150 markup. And I agree flashing is no fun. It takes time to find a rom that suppor

GP is saying that there is market for preflashed custom device even if it's 150 markup. And I agree flashing is no fun. It takes time to find a rom that supports your device well, realize you need to root/unlock bootloader first, etc etc. Most of the time for casual flashing is spent finding the right tools and setting up.

BoorishBears 6y ago
Flashing is one thing, flashing without Google's services is another. My point is if you think flashing is no fun, working around the fact Google has moved more and more functionality to Google Play Services every year is going to be even less fun. This is a product that only enthusiasts will find fun flashing or not, so why even bother paying extra for obsolete hardware? - Edit because people don't like when you point out the obvious and now I'm rate-limited: Privacy concerned smartphone "normies" have Apple. By definition "normies" are not concerned with Stallmanistic posturing about how Apple locks down their very secure devices. If you have an ideological opposition to them that somehow doesn't apply to the large manufacturers making the phones these guys flash I'd love to know it
- websites2323 6y ago
  I’m a time strapped, privacy concerned smartphone normie who would love to find a good alternative to Apple / Google to recommend to friends. I use three apps: messaging, web browser, and camera. Seems like those apps are covered in this one.
  - 177tcca 6y ago
    Carrier unlocked Pixel 3+ on Swappa.com, GrapheneOS.org. Web install takes moments these days, can be done by any 8th grader with a GrapheneOS phone, or PC with any major browser and a USB C cable.
    - websites2323 6y ago
      I don’t want to do this. I want to buy one that is already done for me. It’s great that it’s so easy. I’m happy that people enjoy doing it. I simply don’t want to.
      - 177tcca 6y ago
        Shit, I'll mail you this one on my desk I just flashed for $150 more than I paid. Let me know.

BoorishBears 6y ago

Flashing is one thing, flashing without Google's services is another. My point is if you think flashing is no fun, working around the fact Google has moved more and more functionality to Google Play Services every year is going to be even less fun. This is a product that only enthusiasts will find fun flashing or not, so why even bother paying extra for obsolete hardware? - Edit because people don't like when you point out the obvious and now I'm rate-limited: Privacy concerned smartphone "normies" have Apple. By definition "normies" are not concerned with Stallmanistic posturing about how Apple locks down their very secure devices. If you have an ideological opposition to them that somehow doesn't apply to the large manufacturers making the phones these guys flash I'd love to know it

websites2323 6y ago
I’m a time strapped, privacy concerned smartphone normie who would love to find a good alternative to Apple / Google to recommend to friends. I use three apps: messaging, web browser, and camera. Seems like those apps are covered in this one.
- 177tcca 6y ago
  Carrier unlocked Pixel 3+ on Swappa.com, GrapheneOS.org. Web install takes moments these days, can be done by any 8th grader with a GrapheneOS phone, or PC with any major browser and a USB C cable.
  - websites2323 6y ago
    I don’t want to do this. I want to buy one that is already done for me. It’s great that it’s so easy. I’m happy that people enjoy doing it. I simply don’t want to.
    - 177tcca 6y ago
      Shit, I'll mail you this one on my desk I just flashed for $150 more than I paid. Let me know.