> He claimed the battery swap was going to be at Super Charger locations. Not that they tested it at an old car wash. Well, Harris Ranch is a Super Charger loc

> He claimed the battery swap was going to be at Super Charger locations. Not that they tested it at an old car wash. Well, Harris Ranch is a Super Charger location, so... I guess that wasn't a lie? And, again, real customers did use it on real road trips (you can read user experiences on TMC). Turns out people would rather take a discount for charging instead of swapping, so the swapping model wasn't financially viable. Sometimes plans change. Is almost every startup founder a liar because they pivoted after testing market fit? > Most automakers are quite careful about the dates they say, and the certainty the communicate around it. Oh, come. on. I'm going to pick on VWAG for a minute: * The e-Tron was months late due to software issues. * The Taycan has been out for almost a year and a half, yet features promised to be available at launch are still unavailable. OTA does not exist. Owners report that paid software features randomly disappear then come back a few days later. 12V battery problems bricking the car are rife. * Porsche repeatedly and loudly claimed the Taycan was a track-capable car, and wouldn't overheat, unlike those silly children over at Tesla. Owner reports on taycanforum.com indicate otherwise. * VW said the ID.3 would be available in 2020Q2, but didn't start shipping until 2020Q4. * They sold and registered ID.3s to dealerships to inflate their sales numbers for December, despite claiming many months ago that they were sold out for a year. They've sold almost none in January. That's called channel stuffing, and regulators don't like it. > And yes, no other car company CEO could consistently overpromise and underdeliver like he does and keep their job. Really? I don't see anyone calling for Herbert Diess's head. Yet, every new EV from VWAG has been late. By your standards it sounds like he repeatedly lied about timelines. And it sure looks like VWAG lied to investors and regulators about the number of cars sold to actual customers in 2020. > A couple of prototype Semis on the road in secret in 2021 is a far cry from commercial delivery in 2019. You originally claimed that "Semis on the road by 2019" was an example of a Musk lie. Here is an article, with pictures, from March 2018 showing a Tesla Semi charging at a public supercharger. https://electrek.co/2018/03/08/tesla-semi-trucks-spotted-supercharger-first-cargo-trip/ https://electrek.co/2018/03/08/tesla-semi-trucks-spotted-sup... > By definition, someone who makes repeatedly makes factual claims that are false that are factually disprovable is a liar. No matter the industry. Pot, meet kettle.