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Amazing story. Can't believe the Lotus FTP site is still live. Wonder where that thing is running and if anyone actually knows it still is. > I was able to fi

Amazing story. Can't believe the Lotus FTP site is still live. Wonder where that thing is running and if anyone actually knows it still is. > I was able to find the drivers on an old ftp site. Wonder what FTP site this is and how he found it?

EvanAnderson 6y ago
It's linked in the post: ftp://ftp.support.lotus.com/pub/ The Internet Archive has a copy too: https://archive.org/details/2008-12-23_ftp.support.lotus.com https://archive.org/details/2008-12-23_ftp.support.lotus.com
- schnable 6y ago
  He mentioned another one as well.
  - EvanAnderson 6y ago
    Heh heh. Poor reading skills on my part. The Cirrus Logic VGA drivers might have come from here: http://ftp.mpoli.fi/pub/pub/unpacked/hardware/display/cirrus/k543x-d1.zip/lotus30/ http://ftp.mpoli.fi/pub/pub/unpacked/hardware/display/cirrus... The HighPrint driver I'm less sure about.
    - bostik 6y ago
      Oh wow, Metropoli is still alive? I haven't seen that domain in ages. I was actually active on the BBS back in the day, years before WWW came on the scene and blew up the internet. Hell, I think my first widely known email address would have been @mpoli.fi one - and, this being in early 1990s, I actually walked over to the owner's house to pay the account creation fee in person. As far as the tech scene goes, you can probably trace most of the Finnish old guard to that system.
      - Darkphibre 6y ago
        Heck, that reminded me of The Well! Looks like they're still going strong. :D https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/510/State-of-the-World-2021-page01.html https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/510/State-of...
tyingq 6y ago
"Can't believe the Lotus FTP site is still live. Wonder where that thing is running" Had me curious as well. $ host ftp.support.lotus.com ftp.support.lotus.com is an alias for service.boulder.ibm.com. service.boulder.ibm.com has address 170.225.15.26 It's running WUFTPD 2.6.3, which is abandonware as far as I can tell. Though no open vulnerabilities listed.
- bombcar 6y ago
  Nobody at IBM will ever want to be the person to suggest decommissioning a server that might make a paying customer yell at their manager. Expect it to continue forever.
  - ArchOversight 6y ago
    That system has probably been migrated a hundred times, and will continue to be!
  - spockz 6y ago
    This is what metrics are for right? See that nobody is using it, shut it down. Which probably won’t happen anymore with all the HN traffic it receives now.
    - bombcar 6y ago
      Metrics are hard to justify and use on a "once every five years" type of access. Much simpler to throw the machine you don't know what it does into a VM and leave it alone.
  - brassattax 6y ago
    If only Google were like IBM we'd still have Reader.
    - adwww 6y ago
      And your contacts would be split between 19 different chat applications...

EvanAnderson 6y ago

It's linked in the post: ftp://ftp.support.lotus.com/pub/ The Internet Archive has a copy too: https://archive.org/details/2008-12-23_ftp.support.lotus.com https://archive.org/details/2008-12-23_ftp.support.lotus.com

schnable 6y ago
He mentioned another one as well.
- EvanAnderson 6y ago
  Heh heh. Poor reading skills on my part. The Cirrus Logic VGA drivers might have come from here: http://ftp.mpoli.fi/pub/pub/unpacked/hardware/display/cirrus/k543x-d1.zip/lotus30/ http://ftp.mpoli.fi/pub/pub/unpacked/hardware/display/cirrus... The HighPrint driver I'm less sure about.
  - bostik 6y ago
    Oh wow, Metropoli is still alive? I haven't seen that domain in ages. I was actually active on the BBS back in the day, years before WWW came on the scene and blew up the internet. Hell, I think my first widely known email address would have been @mpoli.fi one - and, this being in early 1990s, I actually walked over to the owner's house to pay the account creation fee in person. As far as the tech scene goes, you can probably trace most of the Finnish old guard to that system.
    - Darkphibre 6y ago
      Heck, that reminded me of The Well! Looks like they're still going strong. :D https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/510/State-of-the-World-2021-page01.html https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/510/State-of...

tyingq 6y ago

"Can't believe the Lotus FTP site is still live. Wonder where that thing is running" Had me curious as well. $ host ftp.support.lotus.com ftp.support.lotus.com is an alias for service.boulder.ibm.com. service.boulder.ibm.com has address 170.225.15.26 It's running WUFTPD 2.6.3, which is abandonware as far as I can tell. Though no open vulnerabilities listed.

bombcar 6y ago
Nobody at IBM will ever want to be the person to suggest decommissioning a server that might make a paying customer yell at their manager. Expect it to continue forever.
- ArchOversight 6y ago
  That system has probably been migrated a hundred times, and will continue to be!
- spockz 6y ago
  This is what metrics are for right? See that nobody is using it, shut it down. Which probably won’t happen anymore with all the HN traffic it receives now.
  - bombcar 6y ago
    Metrics are hard to justify and use on a "once every five years" type of access. Much simpler to throw the machine you don't know what it does into a VM and leave it alone.
- brassattax 6y ago
  If only Google were like IBM we'd still have Reader.
  - adwww 6y ago
    And your contacts would be split between 19 different chat applications...