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The 2000 election was a mess. (https://www.law.gmu.edu/assets/files/publications/working_papers/01-17.pdf https://www.law.gmu.edu/assets/files/publications/work
by throwaway19937 6y ago
The 2000 election was a mess. (https://www.law.gmu.edu/assets/files/publications/working_papers/01-17.pdf https://www.law.gmu.edu/assets/files/publications/working_pa...) makes what I consider a credible argument that Gore was in the wrong.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_election_voting_controversies#Specific_issues_concerning_the_voting_process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_election_vo...) has a pretty good summary of the issues. The voting machine claims were a big deal at the time; I remember a lot of news coverage about that the voting machine companies were owned by Republicans.
I think the 2016 fraud claims were about Russian hacking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election#Russian_involvement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...). (https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2018/09/11/many-democrats-think-that-the-2016-election-result-was-rigged/ https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2018/09/11/many-democrats-...) claims that many Democrats questioned the 2016 election.
> On the left I see claims of disenfranchisement done through legal means, which whether you agree with or not is at least something real and concrete.
I agree that disenfranchisement is an issue and am in favor of federal voting standards and protecting the voting rights of convicted felons.
- relaxing 6y agoI remember 2004 well, and the concerns around electronic voting machines. But there were no allegations of impropriety once the count took place. The rest of that Wikipedia article is the usual list of enfranchisement issues. I haven’t seen anyone claiming Russian hacking changed the vote tallies of 2016. I remember the hacking “questions” being quite clear that the results of the election were not in question.