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> and greater confidence that their users are not being tracked. And that right there is why I continue to donate to IA. I am sick and tired of services offlo

> and greater confidence that their users are not being tracked. And that right there is why I continue to donate to IA. I am sick and tired of services offloading my data to destructive companies like Amazon.

samstave 6y ago
Tracking should be STRICTLY illegal and ONLY acceptable with a verifiable OPT-IN and a transparency on to WHOM the data was sent/read-by/received. With STILL an option to selectively opt-out.
- Shared404 6y ago
  I agree with the sentiment, but there needs to be some degree of leeway. For example are server logs considered tracking? It seems unreasonable to require that logs not be kept. Edit: On further thought, I don't even know that tracking should be banned. Instead, I would argue that advertising in the way enabled by tracking should be banned. That way the incentive is removed with less bureaucracy.
  - samstave 6y ago
    bureaucracy IS the incentive. We need to kill bureaucratic interests in EVERY THING. Politicians should be conscripted servants with no method for empowering or financing themselves. They should run on policy ALONE.
    - Shared404 6y ago
      > bureaucracy IS the incentive I don't agree there. There is no reason that someone has building bureaucracy as they're goal. The goal is to get something out of it, which is accomplished via the bureaucracy. > We need to kill bureaucratic interests in EVERY THING. While I don't necessarily disagree, this is orthogonal to the original issue. > Politicians should be conscripted servants with no method for empowering or financing themselves. I don't think conscripted means what you think it means... Also, that would be impossible to implement. Either you don't try to cut off every path, in which case you have the option of limiting bureaucracy, or you try to cut off every path, increasing bureaucracy. > They should run on policy ALONE. I agree. Also orthogonal to the topic at hand. Also, please let me know if you find a way of implementing this without requiring bureaucracy as a critical component.
- GuB-42 6y ago
  > Tracking should be STRICTLY illegal And yet, the opposite is happening. Government agencies are happy to tap into user data. And sometimes it is mandatory to keep data depending on what you are doing and your country legislation. AFAIK the US is among the countries where you have the least such requirements, but there are still some sectors where logging is mandatory, like financial services. Many other first world countries (never mind dictatorships) require ISPs to keep data for a year or more.

samstave 6y ago

Tracking should be STRICTLY illegal and ONLY acceptable with a verifiable OPT-IN and a transparency on to WHOM the data was sent/read-by/received. With STILL an option to selectively opt-out.

Shared404 6y ago
I agree with the sentiment, but there needs to be some degree of leeway. For example are server logs considered tracking? It seems unreasonable to require that logs not be kept. Edit: On further thought, I don't even know that tracking should be banned. Instead, I would argue that advertising in the way enabled by tracking should be banned. That way the incentive is removed with less bureaucracy.
- samstave 6y ago
  bureaucracy IS the incentive. We need to kill bureaucratic interests in EVERY THING. Politicians should be conscripted servants with no method for empowering or financing themselves. They should run on policy ALONE.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    > bureaucracy IS the incentive I don't agree there. There is no reason that someone has building bureaucracy as they're goal. The goal is to get something out of it, which is accomplished via the bureaucracy. > We need to kill bureaucratic interests in EVERY THING. While I don't necessarily disagree, this is orthogonal to the original issue. > Politicians should be conscripted servants with no method for empowering or financing themselves. I don't think conscripted means what you think it means... Also, that would be impossible to implement. Either you don't try to cut off every path, in which case you have the option of limiting bureaucracy, or you try to cut off every path, increasing bureaucracy. > They should run on policy ALONE. I agree. Also orthogonal to the topic at hand. Also, please let me know if you find a way of implementing this without requiring bureaucracy as a critical component.
GuB-42 6y ago
> Tracking should be STRICTLY illegal And yet, the opposite is happening. Government agencies are happy to tap into user data. And sometimes it is mandatory to keep data depending on what you are doing and your country legislation. AFAIK the US is among the countries where you have the least such requirements, but there are still some sectors where logging is mandatory, like financial services. Many other first world countries (never mind dictatorships) require ISPs to keep data for a year or more.