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Well you could always take the battery out of a flip phone.

• fsflover 6y ago
  But can you be sure there is no second battery?
  • jtvjan 6y ago
    At that point, you can argue that you can't be sure whether the kill switches would actually turn off the radios.
    • fsflover 6y ago
      The schematics of the GNU/Linux phone is available.
      • mendelmaleh 6y ago
        That's like trusting a service because they released some source code.
        • fsflover 6y ago
          It's not trusting, it's verifying. Just like with a source code.
          • mendelmaleh 6y ago
            My point is that you can't verify it, because you don't control manufacturing. Just like you can't verify that the server is running the open source code.
            • fsflover 6y ago
              Maybe I can't verify those things, but a lot of people can and if anyone finds anything suspicious, they will make a lot of noise and everyone will know. This is how community verification works. It adds additional verification procedure, thus making everything in general more secure. If you really need to be sure, you can also hire a professional and they will verify that for you, too. Try to do that with iPhone software and hardware.