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I think I agree with a bunch of stuff you posted, but I can't get past this comment. > That's something no other smartphone could do. Either I'm misreading yo

I think I agree with a bunch of stuff you posted, but I can't get past this comment. > That's something no other smartphone could do. Either I'm misreading you, or you have a strangely narrow version of the world we live in. What is so magical about the iPhone that no other smartphone can "react quickly to your input by showing you a nice, smooth but slow animation while work is being done in the background"? (Part of my doubt probably comes from using a OnePlus 7 Pro as my daily driver. 90Hz refresh rate and everything is ridiculously fast and smooth. But that's not actually possible, is it?)

GuB-42 6y ago
There is nothing magical about the iPhone especially not on the hardware side. I don't know how but if you look at input response time charts, especially in the early days, the iPhone is among the best, if not the best by a large margin. Less abstraction layers? Better tuned OS? More attention given to latency? More trickery? Apple's level of integration and closed ecosystem certainly helps here, and I can easily imagine Steve Jobs pissing off every single employee that wasn't fired for the smallest hiccup. I am far from an Apple fan and I don't own any of their stuff but I have to admit that on some points, they are really good. And as a developer, I have a lot of respect for those who care about performance. Your OnePlus 7 Pro is a beast. It is fast and smooth because it has quasi-desktop class hardware inside. That's the "solution" I was referring to. To be fair, Android did work on smoothness. It was called "project butter". But IMHO, they still didn't manage to match Apple on equivalent hardware. I don't know about the situation right now but I hope everything is smooth considering the ridiculously powerful hardware they put in modern flagships.
conscion 6y ago
The iPhone has used a 120hz touch digitizer for a long time, while Android phones have usually used only a 60hz touch digitizer. So while the screen refresh rate was only 60hz, they could start reacting and creating the animation sooner.

GuB-42 6y ago

There is nothing magical about the iPhone especially not on the hardware side. I don't know how but if you look at input response time charts, especially in the early days, the iPhone is among the best, if not the best by a large margin. Less abstraction layers? Better tuned OS? More attention given to latency? More trickery? Apple's level of integration and closed ecosystem certainly helps here, and I can easily imagine Steve Jobs pissing off every single employee that wasn't fired for the smallest hiccup. I am far from an Apple fan and I don't own any of their stuff but I have to admit that on some points, they are really good. And as a developer, I have a lot of respect for those who care about performance. Your OnePlus 7 Pro is a beast. It is fast and smooth because it has quasi-desktop class hardware inside. That's the "solution" I was referring to. To be fair, Android did work on smoothness. It was called "project butter". But IMHO, they still didn't manage to match Apple on equivalent hardware. I don't know about the situation right now but I hope everything is smooth considering the ridiculously powerful hardware they put in modern flagships.

conscion 6y ago

The iPhone has used a 120hz touch digitizer for a long time, while Android phones have usually used only a 60hz touch digitizer. So while the screen refresh rate was only 60hz, they could start reacting and creating the animation sooner.