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> The Nazi symbol in the stage of their event? ...and Gmail, Facebook and Chrome logos are masonic symbols. You've somehow managed to delegitimize Wikipedia w

by ttt0 6y ago

> The Nazi symbol in the stage of their event? ...and Gmail, Facebook and Chrome logos are masonic symbols. You've somehow managed to delegitimize Wikipedia with those stupid claims, congratulations.

Schiendelman 6y ago
The Charlottesville protestors used that symbol explicitly (see link). CPAC hasn't come out with a denial that their stage was that shape intentionally. If it wasn't, they would have. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/flags-and-other-symbols-used-far-right-groups-charlottesville https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/flags-and-oth...
- ttt0 6y ago
  > The Charlottesville protestors used that symbol explicitly Okay, so what? Should I start adding all the random incidents where people made something that was coincidentally shaped like swastika to the Wikipedia article as examples of modern usage? > CPAC hasn't come out with a denial that their stage was that shape intentionally. They did, they called it slanderous. > slander (noun) - the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation CPAC cancelled some black dude for anti-semitism. They didn't do that after he was saying anti-Christian and anti-white stuff, only after he started saying that Judaism is illegitimate or whatever. But yes, I'm supposed to believe that they're using Nazi imagery on purpose.
  - Schiendelman 6y ago
    They called the attack on them slanderous. Interestingly they didn't actually deny it. This is exactly how dog whistles work, dude...
    - ttt0 6y ago
      Yes, because attacking them for that stage is slanderous? That's what slander is. I haven't seen anyone picking up that "dog whistle" besides people like you. edit: search on twitter the phrase "cpac rune based" or "cpac stage based". If it was a dog whistle, I would expect someone to pick up on it and call it "based". Yet the only people who are talking about it are the people who are making those stupid accusations. Literally no one cared about it until you made a big deal out of it. And still barely anyone cares.
      - Schiendelman 6y ago
        I would NOT expect someone to talk about it publicly. That's why CPAC would hedge and not openly deny they used a Nazi symbol. This is how a group that knows they need to hide communicate with one another.
        ttt0 6y ago
        You know what? You convinced me, you're right. All those Jewish people that are involved in the CPAC are totally followers of Hitler's ideology. You're clearly a very smart and intelligent person, so I don't need to care if you will make yourself look like a fool, just like I don't need to care about this joke of a conference that called itself "America Uncancelled" and then proceeded to cancel people. Please kill all of my snarky comments in this thread with downvotes, as they were inappropriate and it's a flamewar that has no place on HN.
        Schiendelman 6y ago
        Please don't use straw men on HN. I'm not claiming that, and this isn't a flamewar.
- skinkestek 6y ago
  > CPAC hasn't come out with a denial that their stage was that shape intentionally. If it wasn't, they would have. We are quickly approaching "have you stopped beating your wife" at this point. I don't think it would change anything if they came out and said it wasn't intentional. Some friends of me got viciously attacked last year over some perceived fraud. They responded by publishing their books sinve they had nothing to hide. What happened? Story just changed: "They are so crooked they managed to hide it from both the police[0] and a big four accounting company." was tje new story. [0]: who investigated them for three years, first secretly, then openly after a previous false accusation.
  - Schiendelman 6y ago
    That's very different from "Your supporters used a Nazi symbol, then your stage had that symbol, and you won't say explicitly that you aren't connected to Nazis."

by ttt0 6y ago

> The Nazi symbol in the stage of their event? ...and Gmail, Facebook and Chrome logos are masonic symbols. You've somehow managed to delegitimize Wikipedia with those stupid claims, congratulations.

Schiendelman 6y ago

The Charlottesville protestors used that symbol explicitly (see link). CPAC hasn't come out with a denial that their stage was that shape intentionally. If it wasn't, they would have. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/flags-and-other-symbols-used-far-right-groups-charlottesville https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/flags-and-oth...

ttt0 6y ago
> The Charlottesville protestors used that symbol explicitly Okay, so what? Should I start adding all the random incidents where people made something that was coincidentally shaped like swastika to the Wikipedia article as examples of modern usage? > CPAC hasn't come out with a denial that their stage was that shape intentionally. They did, they called it slanderous. > slander (noun) - the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation CPAC cancelled some black dude for anti-semitism. They didn't do that after he was saying anti-Christian and anti-white stuff, only after he started saying that Judaism is illegitimate or whatever. But yes, I'm supposed to believe that they're using Nazi imagery on purpose.
- Schiendelman 6y ago
  They called the attack on them slanderous. Interestingly they didn't actually deny it. This is exactly how dog whistles work, dude...
  - ttt0 6y ago
    Yes, because attacking them for that stage is slanderous? That's what slander is. I haven't seen anyone picking up that "dog whistle" besides people like you. edit: search on twitter the phrase "cpac rune based" or "cpac stage based". If it was a dog whistle, I would expect someone to pick up on it and call it "based". Yet the only people who are talking about it are the people who are making those stupid accusations. Literally no one cared about it until you made a big deal out of it. And still barely anyone cares.
    - Schiendelman 6y ago
      I would NOT expect someone to talk about it publicly. That's why CPAC would hedge and not openly deny they used a Nazi symbol. This is how a group that knows they need to hide communicate with one another.
      - ttt0 6y ago
        You know what? You convinced me, you're right. All those Jewish people that are involved in the CPAC are totally followers of Hitler's ideology. You're clearly a very smart and intelligent person, so I don't need to care if you will make yourself look like a fool, just like I don't need to care about this joke of a conference that called itself "America Uncancelled" and then proceeded to cancel people. Please kill all of my snarky comments in this thread with downvotes, as they were inappropriate and it's a flamewar that has no place on HN.
        Schiendelman 6y ago
        Please don't use straw men on HN. I'm not claiming that, and this isn't a flamewar.
skinkestek 6y ago
> CPAC hasn't come out with a denial that their stage was that shape intentionally. If it wasn't, they would have. We are quickly approaching "have you stopped beating your wife" at this point. I don't think it would change anything if they came out and said it wasn't intentional. Some friends of me got viciously attacked last year over some perceived fraud. They responded by publishing their books sinve they had nothing to hide. What happened? Story just changed: "They are so crooked they managed to hide it from both the police[0] and a big four accounting company." was tje new story. [0]: who investigated them for three years, first secretly, then openly after a previous false accusation.
- Schiendelman 6y ago
  That's very different from "Your supporters used a Nazi symbol, then your stage had that symbol, and you won't say explicitly that you aren't connected to Nazis."