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Jesus is "the son" and Muhammad is "the prophet" of the same God.

jtbayly 6y ago
If you’re trying to tell me what I believe, you’re wrong. By the way, I’m a pastor. If you’re trying to tell me what Muslims believe, you’re also wrong. Saying that Jesus is the Son of God is very different from saying that He is a prophet of God. That difference is precisely why Muslims cannot agree that Jesus is the Son of God and why I cannot agree that Muhammad is a prophet of God.
- skissane 6y ago
  > If you’re trying to tell me what I believe, you’re wrong. By the way, I’m a pastor. I don't dispute that's what you believe, but it isn't the position of all Christians. The Catholic Church is quite explicit about its belief that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. It has expressed that belief in the decree Nostra aetate of the Second Vatican Council, and numerous other Vatican documents since. And the Catholic Church is not alone among Christians in this belief. I think there is a real disagreement among Christians as to whether the God of Islam is a (somewhat distorted) account of the God of Christianity (the official Catholic position, but certainly some Protestants agree with it too), or whether it is a completely different entity (the position of yourself among others). I think from the Muslim point of view – the Islamic designation of Christians as "People of the Book" only makes sense if Muslims believe that Christians worship the same God as they do, even if wrongly and confusedly.
- bosswipe 6y ago
  Geez Christians can be so sensitive about minor things. You can believe whatever you want, I don't care. But it is a fact that the traditions derive from the same jewish abrahmic God. If you don't like it that doesn't change the fact.
  - jtbayly 6y ago
    Me: Javascript is a version of Java for the web. Techy: Ummm... no. Me: Techies can be so sensitive about minor things. You can believe whatever you want, I don't care. But it is a fact that Java and Javascript are both programming languages. If you don't like it that doesn't change the fact.

If you’re trying to tell me what I believe, you’re wrong. By the way, I’m a pastor. If you’re trying to tell me what Muslims believe, you’re also wrong. Saying that Jesus is the Son of God is very different from saying that He is a prophet of God. That difference is precisely why Muslims cannot agree that Jesus is the Son of God and why I cannot agree that Muhammad is a prophet of God.

skissane 6y ago
> If you’re trying to tell me what I believe, you’re wrong. By the way, I’m a pastor. I don't dispute that's what you believe, but it isn't the position of all Christians. The Catholic Church is quite explicit about its belief that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. It has expressed that belief in the decree Nostra aetate of the Second Vatican Council, and numerous other Vatican documents since. And the Catholic Church is not alone among Christians in this belief. I think there is a real disagreement among Christians as to whether the God of Islam is a (somewhat distorted) account of the God of Christianity (the official Catholic position, but certainly some Protestants agree with it too), or whether it is a completely different entity (the position of yourself among others). I think from the Muslim point of view – the Islamic designation of Christians as "People of the Book" only makes sense if Muslims believe that Christians worship the same God as they do, even if wrongly and confusedly.
bosswipe 6y ago
Geez Christians can be so sensitive about minor things. You can believe whatever you want, I don't care. But it is a fact that the traditions derive from the same jewish abrahmic God. If you don't like it that doesn't change the fact.
- jtbayly 6y ago
  Me: Javascript is a version of Java for the web. Techy: Ummm... no. Me: Techies can be so sensitive about minor things. You can believe whatever you want, I don't care. But it is a fact that Java and Javascript are both programming languages. If you don't like it that doesn't change the fact.