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"My wife will kill me" indicates he was sexualizing the people he was reporting on. If his wife would actually take offense that is something he needs to work

"My wife will kill me" indicates he was sexualizing the people he was reporting on. If his wife would actually take offense that is something he needs to work out with her and not let it affect his work. Anyone who doesn't get this should seriously do some reading now, as this is basic stuff.

NikolaeVarius 6y ago
No it doesn't. I dont see how you could possibly think that. If he had asked them to put on clothes, is that cultural denial? Is that sexualizing them since he acknowledged they were topless? The notion that pointing out reality is somehow bad is such a dumb concept.
- joveian 6y ago
  Yes, asking them to put on a shirt would have been even worse and still sexualizing. Feeling entitled to say whatever sexist stuff you want at any time is a liability for anyone and is even worse for a reporter.
  - NikolaeVarius 6y ago
    So he can't comment on it being a bad look even though he had no agency in the creation of the situation since that acknowledges topless, he can't attempt to ask no photos be taken since he knows the reality of his situation and that asking for it is admitting he recognizes that these woman are topless, he can't change the sitaution since you're saying its sexualizing to literally comment on anything pertaining to the situation. So basically nothing will satisfy you. So, what, he should have lied down the in the fetal position and feigned dead? Oh wait, that might be misconstrued as something about babies and woman. I guess lie face down, eyes closed, hands over ears and hope it all goes away.
    - joveian 6y ago
      There is nothing wrong with a reporter being photographed inteviewing people, unless the people he was reporting on didn't approve (no evidence in the story that was the case - and the article he wrote mentions that it wasn't the case). If his wife actually throught there was something wrong, that was a conversation he needed to have with her. "My wife will kill me" was a sexist comment, but not necessarily perceived as offensive at the time (although I certainly wouldn't trust his judgement if it was). By telling the story the way he did to the teenagers he is not just showing that he sexualised the people he was interviewing at the time but was revealing that he was likely sexualising the women he was travelling with as well.
      - tsimionescu 6y ago
        > By telling the story the way he did to the teenagers he is not just showing that he sexualised the people he was interviewing at the time but was revealing that he was likely sexualising the women he was travelling with as well. Wow, this is really going past the far end. It was a story of cultural clash and slightly bewildering situation for a relatively inexperienced reporter at the time, to go from there to essentially accusing him of pedophilia is many steps too far.
        joveian 6y ago
        He was 44 at the time, 22 years after he started working at the Times. I don't mean to suggest that he is a pedophile (I could have phrased it better), just that he made a sexist comment that is based on seeing women as sexual in a way that men are not.

NikolaeVarius 6y ago

No it doesn't. I dont see how you could possibly think that. If he had asked them to put on clothes, is that cultural denial? Is that sexualizing them since he acknowledged they were topless? The notion that pointing out reality is somehow bad is such a dumb concept.

joveian 6y ago
Yes, asking them to put on a shirt would have been even worse and still sexualizing. Feeling entitled to say whatever sexist stuff you want at any time is a liability for anyone and is even worse for a reporter.
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  So he can't comment on it being a bad look even though he had no agency in the creation of the situation since that acknowledges topless, he can't attempt to ask no photos be taken since he knows the reality of his situation and that asking for it is admitting he recognizes that these woman are topless, he can't change the sitaution since you're saying its sexualizing to literally comment on anything pertaining to the situation. So basically nothing will satisfy you. So, what, he should have lied down the in the fetal position and feigned dead? Oh wait, that might be misconstrued as something about babies and woman. I guess lie face down, eyes closed, hands over ears and hope it all goes away.
  - joveian 6y ago
    There is nothing wrong with a reporter being photographed inteviewing people, unless the people he was reporting on didn't approve (no evidence in the story that was the case - and the article he wrote mentions that it wasn't the case). If his wife actually throught there was something wrong, that was a conversation he needed to have with her. "My wife will kill me" was a sexist comment, but not necessarily perceived as offensive at the time (although I certainly wouldn't trust his judgement if it was). By telling the story the way he did to the teenagers he is not just showing that he sexualised the people he was interviewing at the time but was revealing that he was likely sexualising the women he was travelling with as well.
    - tsimionescu 6y ago
      > By telling the story the way he did to the teenagers he is not just showing that he sexualised the people he was interviewing at the time but was revealing that he was likely sexualising the women he was travelling with as well. Wow, this is really going past the far end. It was a story of cultural clash and slightly bewildering situation for a relatively inexperienced reporter at the time, to go from there to essentially accusing him of pedophilia is many steps too far.
      - joveian 6y ago
        He was 44 at the time, 22 years after he started working at the Times. I don't mean to suggest that he is a pedophile (I could have phrased it better), just that he made a sexist comment that is based on seeing women as sexual in a way that men are not.