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I suspect that your point is that "a Chinese device doesn't mean it's reporting to China." I think it's good not to make this assumption. That said, I also thi

I suspect that your point is that "a Chinese device doesn't mean it's reporting to China." I think it's good not to make this assumption. That said, I also think it's incredibly naive to think that a collection system wouldn't make use of a local proxy to mask the ultimate destination of the information. It's such a trivial task to do, and provides a host of benefits to obfuscate and sow doubt as to where the data is going and will be ultimately used for. I'm not assuming that "it must be reporting back to China through a proxy!", but rather, the absence of certain national IPs in that list shouldn't be used to rule out scenarios either. An idea scenario for me would be that the device didn't call back period, or if it did, it did so to endpoints that could be authenticated and audited.

firebaze 6y ago
It's incredibly naive to assume NSA/* doesn't do the same, even if that affects your daily life as a human/business owner about as much. I despise the chinese government - may it concern Uighurs or the treatment of Tibetans. Still I have a hard time believing none of my data collected by google is used by the US administration, which, as we know, is not always lead by a trustful person. Still, if I had to choose whom to embargo, I'd definitely choose china/russia. Since it's so easy to cheat traffic, there are two options: only china/russia needs to cover traffic, or ...?
- purecoolnesss 6y ago
  The difference between china and US collecting data is one is evil one is not but in reality that kind of data collection is unethical no matter who is doing it. To some of us there is not much difference.
  - pferdone 6y ago
    Which is which? I'm very curious.