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It's a comical comparison, but do any companies actually measure progress like this without even looking at the end result? Presumably if velocity stays high bu

It's a comical comparison, but do any companies actually measure progress like this without even looking at the end result? Presumably if velocity stays high but everything is broken, somebody will say something (and hopefully not just continue with the broken process that produced the problem).

ChuckNorris89 6y ago
You'd be surprised how many companies have totally broken software development process. Basically most companies where software isn't the core product and moneymaker (semiconductors, automotive, 100 year old german companies, etc). Remember how the compilation time of Nokia's Symbian OS was two weeks? As long as money keeps rolling in nobody cares that your development process is totally whack and your promotions as a dev come not from seeking to improve things but from learning these idiosyncratic process and saying yes to whatever your boss says. Ask me how I know.
- 908B64B197 6y ago
  > Remember how the compilation time of Nokia's Symbian OS was two weeks? I feel there's an interesting story right here.
Symbiote 6y ago
Judging by the results, anything outsourced by a European government (at any level) to one of the large, useless companies like Accenture, IBM, Capgemini, etc.
phs318u 6y ago
I contracted with a big-4 consulting firm on an acquisition of a demergered business and the program had to set up a "one of everything" IT shop and demerge and migrate the data. The program had us coordinating and 4-5 other vendors delivering bits of it. I was there for a year (the program ran for another year+). At the time I left, the Jira count was over 35,000 - though that also included risks, decisions, issues and less common issue types. They probably got close to 100K by the time they were done. I don't know if "progress" was measured by Jira tickets, but I'm sure it helped some to justify the extortionate rates we charged.
hinkley 6y ago
They do, it's just that many of them don't do it for long. The bosses don't stick around long enough to learn that what they are doing doesn't work, and go try to repeat it somewhere else.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago

You'd be surprised how many companies have totally broken software development process. Basically most companies where software isn't the core product and moneymaker (semiconductors, automotive, 100 year old german companies, etc). Remember how the compilation time of Nokia's Symbian OS was two weeks? As long as money keeps rolling in nobody cares that your development process is totally whack and your promotions as a dev come not from seeking to improve things but from learning these idiosyncratic process and saying yes to whatever your boss says. Ask me how I know.

908B64B197 6y ago
> Remember how the compilation time of Nokia's Symbian OS was two weeks? I feel there's an interesting story right here.

Symbiote 6y ago

Judging by the results, anything outsourced by a European government (at any level) to one of the large, useless companies like Accenture, IBM, Capgemini, etc.

phs318u 6y ago

I contracted with a big-4 consulting firm on an acquisition of a demergered business and the program had to set up a "one of everything" IT shop and demerge and migrate the data. The program had us coordinating and 4-5 other vendors delivering bits of it. I was there for a year (the program ran for another year+). At the time I left, the Jira count was over 35,000 - though that also included risks, decisions, issues and less common issue types. They probably got close to 100K by the time they were done. I don't know if "progress" was measured by Jira tickets, but I'm sure it helped some to justify the extortionate rates we charged.

hinkley 6y ago

They do, it's just that many of them don't do it for long. The bosses don't stick around long enough to learn that what they are doing doesn't work, and go try to repeat it somewhere else.